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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 550699 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200206 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-83 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : refused acft |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 550699 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : improper maintenance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : engine egt other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | other other |
| Factors | |
| Maintenance | contributing factor : schedule pressure performance deficiency : repair |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance FAA Aircraft Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Overtemp left engine. While starting in ZZZ, the left egt momentarily peaked at 480 degrees. This is 5 degrees over the limit. Factors contributing to this event are as follows: 1) I had already refused an aircraft for the ZZZ1 to ZZZ portion of the trip due to insufficient arrival fuel at ZZZ. This aircraft had no less than 8 PIREPS for warm starts on the left engine. It was legal to go but, in hindsight, I should have refused the plane because there was obviously something wrong. We were already late due to the change of planes. Since it was legal to fly, I felt pressure to get the passenger to ZZZ. 2) maintenance should have fixed this problem days ago. Why were they playing games? If they are not going to correct a problem idented in maintenance write-ups, then why are we putting them in the logbook?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW HAD A HOT START AT THE GATE. THIS IS THE NINTH TIME THE ENG WAS WRITTEN UP.
Narrative: OVERTEMP L ENG. WHILE STARTING IN ZZZ, THE L EGT MOMENTARILY PEAKED AT 480 DEGS. THIS IS 5 DEGS OVER THE LIMIT. FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS EVENT ARE AS FOLLOWS: 1) I HAD ALREADY REFUSED AN ACFT FOR THE ZZZ1 TO ZZZ PORTION OF THE TRIP DUE TO INSUFFICIENT ARR FUEL AT ZZZ. THIS ACFT HAD NO LESS THAN 8 PIREPS FOR WARM STARTS ON THE L ENG. IT WAS LEGAL TO GO BUT, IN HINDSIGHT, I SHOULD HAVE REFUSED THE PLANE BECAUSE THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WRONG. WE WERE ALREADY LATE DUE TO THE CHANGE OF PLANES. SINCE IT WAS LEGAL TO FLY, I FELT PRESSURE TO GET THE PAX TO ZZZ. 2) MAINT SHOULD HAVE FIXED THIS PROB DAYS AGO. WHY WERE THEY PLAYING GAMES? IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CORRECT A PROB IDENTED IN MAINT WRITE-UPS, THEN WHY ARE WE PUTTING THEM IN THE LOGBOOK?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.