An LJ60 crew, taxiing for takeoff at luk, taxied past the hold short line for their departure runway...

Attributes
ACN	548572
Time
Date	200205
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : luk.airport
State Reference	OH
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Learjet 25
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	548572
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airport Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	design : luk.airport markings : luk.airport signage : luk.airport

Narrative:

Upon being told to taxi across runway 25 to hold short of runway 21L, we inadvertently passed the hold short marker and lines thinking they were the lines for runway 25. After crossing them, I noticed that the yellow lines were backward and the red sign was behind us. The sign we were using as a reference to the runway hold short point was the yellow and incorrect one. The tower either didn't notice or didn't say anything and we departed without a word being said about mistakenly crossing the line. This is a known 'hot spot' for runway incursions and needs to be marked better. It is unnatural for us as safety conscious pilots to hold short on an active runway (runway 25) as in this situation. Our instinct to be clear of both runways by taxiing between the lines as in the diagram created an unsafe situation. This situation is well known at luk and should be rectified. We, as transient pilots, can only go by the standards in signs and markings and these are clearly deficient.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN LJ60 CREW, TAXIING FOR TKOF AT LUK, TAXIED PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR THEIR DEP RWY.

Narrative: UPON BEING TOLD TO TAXI ACROSS RWY 25 TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 21L, WE INADVERTENTLY PASSED THE HOLD SHORT MARKER AND LINES THINKING THEY WERE THE LINES FOR RWY 25. AFTER XING THEM, I NOTICED THAT THE YELLOW LINES WERE BACKWARD AND THE RED SIGN WAS BEHIND US. THE SIGN WE WERE USING AS A REF TO THE RWY HOLD SHORT POINT WAS THE YELLOW AND INCORRECT ONE. THE TWR EITHER DIDN'T NOTICE OR DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND WE DEPARTED WITHOUT A WORD BEING SAID ABOUT MISTAKENLY XING THE LINE. THIS IS A KNOWN 'HOT SPOT' FOR RWY INCURSIONS AND NEEDS TO BE MARKED BETTER. IT IS UNNATURAL FOR US AS SAFETY CONSCIOUS PLTS TO HOLD SHORT ON AN ACTIVE RWY (RWY 25) AS IN THIS SIT. OUR INSTINCT TO BE CLR OF BOTH RWYS BY TAXIING BTWN THE LINES AS IN THE DIAGRAM CREATED AN UNSAFE SIT. THIS SIT IS WELL KNOWN AT LUK AND SHOULD BE RECTIFIED. WE, AS TRANSIENT PLTS, CAN ONLY GO BY THE STANDARDS IN SIGNS AND MARKINGS AND THESE ARE CLRLY DEFICIENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.