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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 546389 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200204 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | PC-12 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 1200 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 546389 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I had checked into socal departure out of 1200 ft. My clearance was a heading to intercept the lax 170 degree radial. However, socal gave me a new heading (250 degrees, I believe) which also was an intercept heading for lax 170 degrees. When ATC gave me a new heading ('turn left to a heading of 250 degrees') I assumed this was a new heading to intercept the lax 170 degree radial, as it was not stated that it was anything else. As such, when the radial came alive, I intercepted it. Once the interception was complete, ATC told me the heading was 250 degrees. I explained I intercepted the lax 170 degree radial since I was never told not to. No loss of separation resulted. I believe ATC has the responsibility to use the format of 'aircraft 12345, turn left heading 250 degrees, vectors seal beach.' if that format was used, I do not believe this would have happened, since I would have been clear this wasn't a vector for the radial, but instead a vector for some other point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PC12 PLT, DEPARTING TOA, INTERCEPTED A VOR RADIAL AFTER ATC HAD ASSIGNED A HDG TO MAINTAIN.
Narrative: I HAD CHKED INTO SOCAL DEP OUT OF 1200 FT. MY CLRNC WAS A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE LAX 170 DEG RADIAL. HOWEVER, SOCAL GAVE ME A NEW HDG (250 DEGS, I BELIEVE) WHICH ALSO WAS AN INTERCEPT HDG FOR LAX 170 DEGS. WHEN ATC GAVE ME A NEW HDG ('TURN L TO A HDG OF 250 DEGS') I ASSUMED THIS WAS A NEW HDG TO INTERCEPT THE LAX 170 DEG RADIAL, AS IT WAS NOT STATED THAT IT WAS ANYTHING ELSE. AS SUCH, WHEN THE RADIAL CAME ALIVE, I INTERCEPTED IT. ONCE THE INTERCEPTION WAS COMPLETE, ATC TOLD ME THE HDG WAS 250 DEGS. I EXPLAINED I INTERCEPTED THE LAX 170 DEG RADIAL SINCE I WAS NEVER TOLD NOT TO. NO LOSS OF SEPARATION RESULTED. I BELIEVE ATC HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO USE THE FORMAT OF 'ACFT 12345, TURN L HDG 250 DEGS, VECTORS SEAL BEACH.' IF THAT FORMAT WAS USED, I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED, SINCE I WOULD HAVE BEEN CLR THIS WASN'T A VECTOR FOR THE RADIAL, BUT INSTEAD A VECTOR FOR SOME OTHER POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.