B777-200 crew began holding at an intersection whose location had been changed in rjtg class a airsp...

Attributes
ACN	545075
Time
Date	200204
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	intersection : venus
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl single value : 16000
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : rjtg.artcc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	cruise : level descent : approach
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	545075
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
ASRS Report	545076
Events
Anomaly	other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure FAA ATC Human Performance Aircraft
Primary Problem	Airspace Structure
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : rjtg.artcc

Narrative:

On arrival at aircraft for departure, noted database change scheduled for that day. ACARS uploaded route stated njc V18 organ. Our charts did not have this route, nor would FMC accept. After many communications with dispatch, discovered waypoints perry and bosoh between njc and organ had been moved. Obtained correct coordination from dispatch and continued. Did not query ATC en route since requested and granted direct organ before njc. On descent and approximately 5 mins before venus, told to hold at venus as published. Set up hold and called over fix entering. Approximately 1 min later, ATC called and asked what coordinates we were using for venus and gave us a radial and DME off cvc, not what we had. Our turn was turning us back to correct location, and we requested holding pattern parameters. ATC assigned a heading for the approach and the rest of the flight was normal. We sent message to dispatch to alert other aircraft. There were no bulletins or NOTAMS regarding the changes.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B777-200 CREW BEGAN HOLDING AT AN INTXN WHOSE LOCATION HAD BEEN CHANGED IN RJTG CLASS A AIRSPACE.

Narrative: ON ARR AT ACFT FOR DEP, NOTED DATABASE CHANGE SCHEDULED FOR THAT DAY. ACARS UPLOADED RTE STATED NJC V18 ORGAN. OUR CHARTS DID NOT HAVE THIS RTE, NOR WOULD FMC ACCEPT. AFTER MANY COMS WITH DISPATCH, DISCOVERED WAYPOINTS PERRY AND BOSOH BTWN NJC AND ORGAN HAD BEEN MOVED. OBTAINED CORRECT COORD FROM DISPATCH AND CONTINUED. DID NOT QUERY ATC ENRTE SINCE REQUESTED AND GRANTED DIRECT ORGAN BEFORE NJC. ON DSCNT AND APPROX 5 MINS BEFORE VENUS, TOLD TO HOLD AT VENUS AS PUBLISHED. SET UP HOLD AND CALLED OVER FIX ENTERING. APPROX 1 MIN LATER, ATC CALLED AND ASKED WHAT COORDINATES WE WERE USING FOR VENUS AND GAVE US A RADIAL AND DME OFF CVC, NOT WHAT WE HAD. OUR TURN WAS TURNING US BACK TO CORRECT LOCATION, AND WE REQUESTED HOLDING PATTERN PARAMETERS. ATC ASSIGNED A HDG FOR THE APCH AND THE REST OF THE FLT WAS NORMAL. WE SENT MESSAGE TO DISPATCH TO ALERT OTHER ACFT. THERE WERE NO BULLETINS OR NOTAMS REGARDING THE CHANGES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

B777-200 crew began holding at an intersection whose location had been changed in rjtg class a airspace.