A B733 crew, taxiing for takeoff at jax, taxied past the hold short line.

Attributes
ACN	541940
Time
Date	200203
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jax.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-300
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : jax.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-300
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	landing : touch and go
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time total : 3800
ASRS Report	541940
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 147 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	541939
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory none taken : unable
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were #1 at runway 7 for takeoff. Tower broke a cessna off a practice approach, had to call him 3 times. Tower told us cleared for immediate takeoff on runway 7, then captain pwred up aircraft. We crossed hold short, but before he (captain) could get out words below the line, tower called us to immediately hold position. Cessna had already come right in front of us and did a touch and go, with MD80 on short final. We were about 10 ft over the hold short with brakes now set. It would have been tight for takeoff, tower told MD80 he was ok and cleared to land. I told tower we were over the line. MD80 landed uneventfully then we went to position and hold, and took off. Report filed because we were 10 ft over hold short line in front of MD80 when they landed. I think tower did the right thing. Supplemental information from acn 541939: we were told to hold short and we stopped with the nose of the aircraft about 10 ft past the hold short line. The first officer told the tower we were past the hold short line. I set the parking brake and tower told the MD80 that they were clear to land.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B733 CREW, TAXIING FOR TKOF AT JAX, TAXIED PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE.

Narrative: WE WERE #1 AT RWY 7 FOR TKOF. TWR BROKE A CESSNA OFF A PRACTICE APCH, HAD TO CALL HIM 3 TIMES. TWR TOLD US CLRED FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF ON RWY 7, THEN CAPT PWRED UP ACFT. WE CROSSED HOLD SHORT, BUT BEFORE HE (CAPT) COULD GET OUT WORDS BELOW THE LINE, TWR CALLED US TO IMMEDIATELY HOLD POS. CESSNA HAD ALREADY COME RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND DID A TOUCH AND GO, WITH MD80 ON SHORT FINAL. WE WERE ABOUT 10 FT OVER THE HOLD SHORT WITH BRAKES NOW SET. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TIGHT FOR TKOF, TWR TOLD MD80 HE WAS OK AND CLRED TO LAND. I TOLD TWR WE WERE OVER THE LINE. MD80 LANDED UNEVENTFULLY THEN WE WENT TO POS AND HOLD, AND TOOK OFF. RPT FILED BECAUSE WE WERE 10 FT OVER HOLD SHORT LINE IN FRONT OF MD80 WHEN THEY LANDED. I THINK TWR DID THE RIGHT THING. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 541939: WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT AND WE STOPPED WITH THE NOSE OF THE ACFT ABOUT 10 FT PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE. THE FO TOLD THE TWR WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE. I SET THE PARKING BRAKE AND TWR TOLD THE MD80 THAT THEY WERE CLR TO LAND.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.