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A canadair cl-65 entering downwind leg for landing had the 'flaps fail' warning without selecting any flaps. Required flaps 0 landing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 541423 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200203 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 138 flight time total : 4211 flight time type : 1289 |
| ASRS Report | 541423 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : flap fail warning other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
During descent we had a flaps failure (occurred without selecting any flaps). This resulted in a flaps 0 degree approach with a vref 171 KTS. We were getting turned onto a base leg when all this occurred. After doing the abnormal procedure from the quick reference handbook, we called maintenance, dispatch, and then back to ATC with our plans. There seems to be much to do in a short amount of time to make sure all the blanks are filled in. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated when slowing down the airplane and before touching the flap select handle the 'flap fail' warning came on which required a flaps up landing at 167 knots. The reporter stated the airplane age was about mid point between the oldest and the latest airplanes but had a logbook history of flap problems. The reporter stated the airplane was taken out of service but maintenance has not released any findings.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CANADAIR CL-65 ENTERING DOWNWIND LEG FOR LNDG HAD THE 'FLAPS FAIL' WARNING WITHOUT SELECTING ANY FLAPS. REQUIRED FLAPS 0 LNDG.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT WE HAD A FLAPS FAILURE (OCCURRED WITHOUT SELECTING ANY FLAPS). THIS RESULTED IN A FLAPS 0 DEG APCH WITH A VREF 171 KTS. WE WERE GETTING TURNED ONTO A BASE LEG WHEN ALL THIS OCCURRED. AFTER DOING THE ABNORMAL PROCEDURE FROM THE QUICK REFERENCE HANDBOOK, WE CALLED MAINT, DISPATCH, AND THEN BACK TO ATC WITH OUR PLANS. THERE SEEMS TO BE MUCH TO DO IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TO MAKE SURE ALL THE BLANKS ARE FILLED IN. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED WHEN SLOWING DOWN THE AIRPLANE AND BEFORE TOUCHING THE FLAP SELECT HANDLE THE 'FLAP FAIL' WARNING CAME ON WHICH REQUIRED A FLAPS UP LNDG AT 167 KNOTS. THE RPTR STATED THE AIRPLANE AGE WAS ABOUT MID POINT BTWN THE OLDEST AND THE LATEST AIRPLANES BUT HAD A LOGBOOK HISTORY OF FLAP PROBS. THE RPTR STATED THE AIRPLANE WAS TAKEN OUT OF SVC BUT MAINT HAS NOT RELEASED ANY FINDINGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.