Narrative:

This in my second instance of this occurrence and my second NASA report on this subject. Landed runway 18R cvg and told by local to exit at D7 and hold short of D at D7. Aircraft Y, an MD88 moving north on D was to my right. Tower cleared an air carrier abc (aircraft Z) (we were air carrier abd (aircraft X) into position and hold. I told tower that holding short of D on D7 would keep me on runway 18R surface by location of hold short markings and by definition of those markings. He told me to hold short of D and I repeated my objection. It was obvious his intention was to launch air carrier abc (aircraft Z) which would have resulted in a loss of separation with us since we were on runway 18R side of the hold short lines. He finally asked air carrier abc (aircraft Z) what his position was and aircraft Z answered holding in position. I told the tower on the radio that I had already submitted one NASA report for this. Tower then told aircraft Z to hold in position. This probably happens on a daily basis. The FAA floods us with runway incursion warnings and then asks us to situation on runway concrete while they actually incur a D and left by launching an aircraft with one holding short of a taxiway on the runway side. (My other occurrence the tower actually launched an aircraft with me still holding short of D on the runway side). The aircraft Y, MD88 had stopped short of D waiting to see what was going to happen. When we didn't move, the MD88 continued its taxi. As it approached D7, tower cleared us across D into the ramp area. I advised tower that we would hold for the MD88 to clear before crossing taxiway D. Had an interesting conversation with tower supervisor after parking. This must stop! Aircraft holding short of D on D7 for crossing traffic on D are not protected from aircraft taking off on runway 18R at cvg. Sooner or later there will be an accident and it will be FAA's fault! Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: callback revealed that the runway hold short line is about ten ft from the parallel taxiway. To hold short of the taxiway after landing there is no way for the holding aircraft to be out of the runway environment as defined by the hold short line.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: UNDER TWR LCL CTL AN ACR IS HELD SHORT OF THE PARALLEL TXWY ON THE RWY SIDE OF THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE. ANOTHER ACFT IS HOLDING IN POSITION FOR TAKE OFF. PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH ACFT BEING CLRED FOR TAKE OFF IN SIMILAR SITS CAUSES THE RPTR TO QUESTION TWR'S INTENTION.

Narrative: THIS IN MY SECOND INSTANCE OF THIS OCCURRENCE AND MY SECOND NASA RPT ON THIS SUBJECT. LANDED RWY 18R CVG AND TOLD BY LCL TO EXIT AT D7 AND HOLD SHORT OF D AT D7. ACFT Y, AN MD88 MOVING N ON D WAS TO MY R. TWR CLRED AN ACR ABC (ACFT Z) (WE WERE ACR ABD (ACFT X) INTO POS AND HOLD. I TOLD TWR THAT HOLDING SHORT OF D ON D7 WOULD KEEP ME ON RWY 18R SURFACE BY LOCATION OF HOLD SHORT MARKINGS AND BY DEFINITION OF THOSE MARKINGS. HE TOLD ME TO HOLD SHORT OF D AND I REPEATED MY OBJECTION. IT WAS OBVIOUS HIS INTENTION WAS TO LAUNCH ACR ABC (ACFT Z) WHICH WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN A LOSS OF SEPARATION WITH US SINCE WE WERE ON RWY 18R SIDE OF THE HOLD SHORT LINES. HE FINALLY ASKED ACR ABC (ACFT Z) WHAT HIS POSITION WAS AND ACFT Z ANSWERED HOLDING IN POSITION. I TOLD THE TWR ON THE RADIO THAT I HAD ALREADY SUBMITTED ONE NASA RPT FOR THIS. TWR THEN TOLD ACFT Z TO HOLD IN POSITION. THIS PROBABLY HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS. THE FAA FLOODS US WITH RWY INCURSION WARNINGS AND THEN ASKS US TO SIT ON RWY CONCRETE WHILE THEY ACTUALLY INCUR A D AND L BY LAUNCHING AN ACFT WITH ONE HOLDING SHORT OF A TXWY ON THE RWY SIDE. (MY OTHER OCCURRENCE THE TWR ACTUALLY LAUNCHED AN ACFT WITH ME STILL HOLDING SHORT OF D ON THE RWY SIDE). THE ACFT Y, MD88 HAD STOPPED SHORT OF D WAITING TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. WHEN WE DIDN'T MOVE, THE MD88 CONTINUED ITS TAXI. AS IT APPROACHED D7, TWR CLRED US ACROSS D INTO THE RAMP AREA. I ADVISED TWR THAT WE WOULD HOLD FOR THE MD88 TO CLR BEFORE CROSSING TXWY D. HAD AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH TWR SUPVR AFTER PARKING. THIS MUST STOP! ACFT HOLDING SHORT OF D ON D7 FOR CROSSING TFC ON D ARE NOT PROTECTED FROM ACFT TAKING OFF ON RWY 18R AT CVG. SOONER OR LATER THERE WILL BE AN ACCIDENT AND IT WILL BE FAA'S FAULT! CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: CALLBACK REVEALED THAT THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE IS ABOUT TEN FT FROM THE PARALLEL TXWY. TO HOLD SHORT OF THE TXWY AFTER LNDG THERE IS NO WAY FOR THE HOLDING ACFT TO BE OUT OF THE RWY ENVIRONMENT AS DEFINED BY THE HOLD SHORT LINE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.