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A C152 training flight is challenged by ground controller after it crosses the active, runway 27L, when cleared to taxi to runway 27R at hwo, fl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 537603 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200202 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : hwo.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 500 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 537603 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
During a routine training lesson, me and my student were planning a southeast departure from hwo. At our company ramp, I called hwo ground and requested a southeast departure and taxi instructions, and was told to 'taxi to runway 27R.' I initiated the taxi procedure, handing the controls to my student and directing him to runway 27R by the most appropriate route. I observed several aircraft lined up at runway 27L awaiting takeoff. As instructed, I crossed runway 27L (observing traffic) and proceeded to runway 27R to start my run-up procedure. Hwo ground asked 'what are you doing at runway 27R? I told you to taxi to runway 27L. You just crossed an active runway.' I replied back 'negative, you instructed me to taxi to runway 27R.' he replied saying he didn't want to argue. I then asked my student. He replied 'yes, taxi to runway 27R!' from there we continued our flight as planned. This might have been a dangerous situation with bad outcome. It seemed the controller, overwhelmed with duties, simply issued a wrong instruction which could have been fatal. I could have probably prevented the occurrence by questioning his instruction. That was the lesson of the day for my students: 'controllers also make mistakes, watch out!'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C152 TRAINING FLT IS CHALLENGED BY GND CTLR AFTER IT CROSSES THE ACTIVE, RWY 27L, WHEN CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 27R AT HWO, FL.
Narrative: DURING A ROUTINE TRAINING LESSON, ME AND MY STUDENT WERE PLANNING A SE DEP FROM HWO. AT OUR COMPANY RAMP, I CALLED HWO GND AND REQUESTED A SE DEP AND TAXI INSTRUCTIONS, AND WAS TOLD TO 'TAXI TO RWY 27R.' I INITIATED THE TAXI PROC, HANDING THE CTLS TO MY STUDENT AND DIRECTING HIM TO RWY 27R BY THE MOST APPROPRIATE RTE. I OBSERVED SEVERAL ACFT LINED UP AT RWY 27L AWAITING TKOF. AS INSTRUCTED, I CROSSED RWY 27L (OBSERVING TFC) AND PROCEEDED TO RWY 27R TO START MY RUN-UP PROC. HWO GND ASKED 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT RWY 27R? I TOLD YOU TO TAXI TO RWY 27L. YOU JUST CROSSED AN ACTIVE RWY.' I REPLIED BACK 'NEGATIVE, YOU INSTRUCTED ME TO TAXI TO RWY 27R.' HE REPLIED SAYING HE DIDN'T WANT TO ARGUE. I THEN ASKED MY STUDENT. HE REPLIED 'YES, TAXI TO RWY 27R!' FROM THERE WE CONTINUED OUR FLT AS PLANNED. THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN A DANGEROUS SIT WITH BAD OUTCOME. IT SEEMED THE CTLR, OVERWHELMED WITH DUTIES, SIMPLY ISSUED A WRONG INSTRUCTION WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN FATAL. I COULD HAVE PROBABLY PREVENTED THE OCCURRENCE BY QUESTIONING HIS INSTRUCTION. THAT WAS THE LESSON OF THE DAY FOR MY STUDENTS: 'CTLRS ALSO MAKE MISTAKES, WATCH OUT!'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.