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Air carrier crew taxiing to the terminal question msy ground control about a partially blocked transmission and that they are beyond the hold short line of active runway while traffic is landing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 532177 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200112 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msy.airport |
| State Reference | LA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msy.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msy.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 532177 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
During taxi-in at msy ground control told us to hold short of the active runway 28 as we were taxiing on runway 24. They then told us to expedite across runway 28, but were partially blocked on their transmission. As we taxied toward the hold short line, I requested a clarification of the crossing clearance. Ground then told us to hold short, but it was too late. We were already across the hold line. We advised ground control twice that we were across the line and they acknowledged. After an air carrier jet landed, we once again were cleared to cross runway 28 and did so uneventfully.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CREW TAXIING TO THE TERMINAL QUESTION MSY GC ABOUT A PARTIALLY BLOCKED XMISSION AND THAT THEY ARE BEYOND THE HOLD SHORT LINE OF ACTIVE RWY WHILE TFC IS LNDG.
Narrative: DURING TAXI-IN AT MSY GND CTL TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT OF THE ACTIVE RWY 28 AS WE WERE TAXIING ON RWY 24. THEY THEN TOLD US TO EXPEDITE ACROSS RWY 28, BUT WERE PARTIALLY BLOCKED ON THEIR XMISSION. AS WE TAXIED TOWARD THE HOLD SHORT LINE, I REQUESTED A CLARIFICATION OF THE XING CLRNC. GND THEN TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE. WE WERE ALREADY ACROSS THE HOLD LINE. WE ADVISED GND CTL TWICE THAT WE WERE ACROSS THE LINE AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGED. AFTER AN ACR JET LANDED, WE ONCE AGAIN WERE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 28 AND DID SO UNEVENTFULLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.