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Mco controller distressed at being unable to effect handoff of X68 arrival to ZMA or dab approach, eventually required to vector around R2532 before effecting a handoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 531962 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200112 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc tracon : mco.tracon tracon : dab.tracon |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Talon |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc tracon : dab.tracon tracon : mco.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Chancellor 414A & C414 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar pilot : instrument |
| Experience | controller radar : 15 controller time certified in position1 : 7 flight time total : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 531962 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure FAA ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
| Situations | |
| Airspace Structure | class e : dab.e special use : r2531ab.restricted |
Narrative:
T38 en route to X68. Handoff to mco from ZJX. Multiple aircraft on V3 at 6000 ft, R2532, 34, 35 active. ZMA bairn sector would not accept handoff, dab approach would not approve 5000 ft. Aircraft was vectored 30 NM out of way to avoid airspace and 'potential' traffic at 5000 ft (did not exist). Why is dab approach working this airspace? It creates an unsafe condition.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MCO CTLR DISTRESSED AT BEING UNABLE TO EFFECT HDOF OF X68 ARR TO ZMA OR DAB APCH, EVENTUALLY REQUIRED TO VECTOR AROUND R2532 BEFORE EFFECTING A HDOF.
Narrative: T38 ENRTE TO X68. HDOF TO MCO FROM ZJX. MULTIPLE ACFT ON V3 AT 6000 FT, R2532, 34, 35 ACTIVE. ZMA BAIRN SECTOR WOULD NOT ACCEPT HDOF, DAB APCH WOULD NOT APPROVE 5000 FT. ACFT WAS VECTORED 30 NM OUT OF WAY TO AVOID AIRSPACE AND 'POTENTIAL' TFC AT 5000 FT (DID NOT EXIST). WHY IS DAB APCH WORKING THIS AIRSPACE? IT CREATES AN UNSAFE CONDITION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.