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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : sac.airport|
|Altitude||agl single value : 0|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 91|
|Flight Phase||landing : roll|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : private
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 20|
flight time total : 168
flight time type : 96
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : local|
|Anomaly||non adherence : published procedure|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Problem Areas||ATC Human Performance|
Flight Crew Human Performance
Intention was to practice touch-and-goes at airport. Before departure, advised tower I would be remaining in pattern for touch-and-goes. I was cleared for the options and cleared for takeoff. During a few rollouts, prior to lifting off again, controller said I was cleared to land and to remain in r-hand pattern after departure. On the next landing, he once again said I was cleared to land and resume right pattern. During the rollout for my final touch-and-go, he said I was cleared to land 'again' and to make my next landing full stop, which I did. I assumed he was requesting a full stop, as he didn't want to continue working me into the pattern's traffic. Nothing else was said after landing full stop, then parking. Later that day, I started worrying that possibly the controller was actually saying 'you weren't cleared to land, again.' I did think it was odd he would say 'you 'were' cleared to land.' I assume if I had not actually been cleared to land, then did so 3 times in a row, the controller would have asked me to call him after I parked. I do recall being 'cleared to land' while in the air. If indeed he was saying I hadn't been cleared to land, it would have registered very clearly in my head, had it been worded 'you were not cleared...' as opposed to 'you weren't cleared....' like I stated, I still don't know for sure what he was saying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING AFTER FLT SELF ANALYSIS A PVT PLT WORRIES THAT HE MAY NOT HAVE DONE THE CORRECT THING WHILE PRACTICING LNDGS WHEN THE TWR CTLR WAS USING 'OPTION' CLRNCS.
Narrative: INTENTION WAS TO PRACTICE TOUCH-AND-GOES AT ARPT. BEFORE DEP, ADVISED TWR I WOULD BE REMAINING IN PATTERN FOR TOUCH-AND-GOES. I WAS CLRED FOR THE OPTIONS AND CLRED FOR TKOF. DURING A FEW ROLLOUTS, PRIOR TO LIFTING OFF AGAIN, CTLR SAID I WAS CLRED TO LAND AND TO REMAIN IN R-HAND PATTERN AFTER DEP. ON THE NEXT LNDG, HE ONCE AGAIN SAID I WAS CLRED TO LAND AND RESUME R PATTERN. DURING THE ROLLOUT FOR MY FINAL TOUCH-AND-GO, HE SAID I WAS CLRED TO LAND 'AGAIN' AND TO MAKE MY NEXT LNDG FULL STOP, WHICH I DID. I ASSUMED HE WAS REQUESTING A FULL STOP, AS HE DIDN'T WANT TO CONTINUE WORKING ME INTO THE PATTERN'S TFC. NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID AFTER LNDG FULL STOP, THEN PARKING. LATER THAT DAY, I STARTED WORRYING THAT POSSIBLY THE CTLR WAS ACTUALLY SAYING 'YOU WEREN'T CLRED TO LAND, AGAIN.' I DID THINK IT WAS ODD HE WOULD SAY 'YOU 'WERE' CLRED TO LAND.' I ASSUME IF I HAD NOT ACTUALLY BEEN CLRED TO LAND, THEN DID SO 3 TIMES IN A ROW, THE CTLR WOULD HAVE ASKED ME TO CALL HIM AFTER I PARKED. I DO RECALL BEING 'CLRED TO LAND' WHILE IN THE AIR. IF INDEED HE WAS SAYING I HADN'T BEEN CLRED TO LAND, IT WOULD HAVE REGISTERED VERY CLRLY IN MY HEAD, HAD IT BEEN WORDED 'YOU WERE NOT CLRED...' AS OPPOSED TO 'YOU WEREN'T CLRED....' LIKE I STATED, I STILL DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.