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A C172 ATP pilot is challenged by bos approach controller regarding his descent from assigned altitude for a visual approach while proceeding direct to bvy, ma.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 525136 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200109 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mht.tracon |
| State Reference | NH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mht.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 18234 flight time type : 2778 |
| ASRS Report | 525136 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Took off from rochester, nh, and in contact with manchester approach control. Climbed to 3000 ft with instructions to go to lwm VOR then to bvy -- our destination. Asked for direct bvy. Controller replied 'you are cleared direct bvy for the visual approach, contact bos approach on 124.4.' we replied 'direct beverly cleared for visual, leaving 3000 ft for 2000 ft,' then called bos on 124.4. They questioned altitude. We were asked to contact mht. Repeated our instructions and he said we weren't cleared for approach. Called mht on ground. They pulled the tapes. Controller called back with an apology and relieved the acting controller from duty. He had cleared us for visual before contacting bos.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 ATP PLT IS CHALLENGED BY BOS APCH CTLR REGARDING HIS DSCNT FROM ASSIGNED ALT FOR A VISUAL APCH WHILE PROCEEDING DIRECT TO BVY, MA.
Narrative: TOOK OFF FROM ROCHESTER, NH, AND IN CONTACT WITH MANCHESTER APCH CTL. CLBED TO 3000 FT WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO GO TO LWM VOR THEN TO BVY -- OUR DEST. ASKED FOR DIRECT BVY. CTLR REPLIED 'YOU ARE CLRED DIRECT BVY FOR THE VISUAL APCH, CONTACT BOS APCH ON 124.4.' WE REPLIED 'DIRECT BEVERLY CLRED FOR VISUAL, LEAVING 3000 FT FOR 2000 FT,' THEN CALLED BOS ON 124.4. THEY QUESTIONED ALT. WE WERE ASKED TO CONTACT MHT. REPEATED OUR INSTRUCTIONS AND HE SAID WE WEREN'T CLRED FOR APCH. CALLED MHT ON GND. THEY PULLED THE TAPES. CTLR CALLED BACK WITH AN APOLOGY AND RELIEVED THE ACTING CTLR FROM DUTY. HE HAD CLRED US FOR VISUAL BEFORE CONTACTING BOS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.