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Non compliance with the new rules after sep 2001 leads to an overweight landing at fll to refile and receive an IFR clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 525060 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200109 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bct.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 14500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pbi.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : charter |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 35 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude landing : roll |
| Route In Use | departure : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : charter |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 525060 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : diverted to another airport |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Sep/mon/01 we departed bct and attempted to pick up our IFR clearance in the air. I was unaware that VFR flts were prohibited, consequently ATC told us we had to land to obtain a clearance. We were above maximum gross landing weight so after brief discussion I landed at fll where I was given an IFR clearance as well as a number to call. The controller called this a 'pilot deviation' and although I explained that I need to burn or dump fuel as well as a longer runway, he insisted he was sending a 'package' to the FSDO. This came days after the new york tragedy so I understand the safety measures, but this was taken to the extreme.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NON COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW RULES AFTER SEP 2001 LEADS TO AN OVERWT LNDG AT FLL TO REFILE AND RECEIVE AN IFR CLRNC.
Narrative: SEP/MON/01 WE DEPARTED BCT AND ATTEMPTED TO PICK UP OUR IFR CLRNC IN THE AIR. I WAS UNAWARE THAT VFR FLTS WERE PROHIBITED, CONSEQUENTLY ATC TOLD US WE HAD TO LAND TO OBTAIN A CLRNC. WE WERE ABOVE MAX GROSS LNDG WT SO AFTER BRIEF DISCUSSION I LANDED AT FLL WHERE I WAS GIVEN AN IFR CLRNC AS WELL AS A NUMBER TO CALL. THE CTLR CALLED THIS A 'PLTDEV' AND ALTHOUGH I EXPLAINED THAT I NEED TO BURN OR DUMP FUEL AS WELL AS A LONGER RWY, HE INSISTED HE WAS SENDING A 'PACKAGE' TO THE FSDO. THIS CAME DAYS AFTER THE NEW YORK TRAGEDY SO I UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY MEASURES, BUT THIS WAS TAKEN TO THE EXTREME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.