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S80 flight crew causes go around perceiving that it should not taxi past ILS critical hold line during low ceiling WX condition at dfw.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 523357 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200108 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 523357 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 523358 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical ground encounters other inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Location: taxiway er between 17C and 17R at dfw. Flight told to cross 17C to hold short of 17R. After crossing, flight held short of ILS sign due to low ceilings. Ground crossed additional aircraft behind us, but due to our position short of ILS sign, aircraft behind could not exit 17C. Aircraft sent around because of aircraft on runway. We felt the area between the ILS sign and 17R was protected because of the possibility of operation ILS apches to 17R. Talked with ATC after gate arrival and we were told that ATIS would tell us if protected ILS space was in effect.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S80 FLC CAUSES GAR PERCEIVING THAT IT SHOULD NOT TAXI PAST ILS CRITICAL HOLD LINE DURING LOW CEILING WX CONDITION AT DFW.
Narrative: LOCATION: TXWY ER BETWEEN 17C AND 17R AT DFW. FLT TOLD TO CROSS 17C TO HOLD SHORT OF 17R. AFTER CROSSING, FLT HELD SHORT OF ILS SIGN DUE TO LOW CEILINGS. GND CROSSED ADDITIONAL ACFT BEHIND US, BUT DUE TO OUR POSITION SHORT OF ILS SIGN, ACFT BEHIND COULD NOT EXIT 17C. ACFT SENT AROUND BECAUSE OF ACFT ON RWY. WE FELT THE AREA BETWEEN THE ILS SIGN AND 17R WAS PROTECTED BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF OPERATION ILS APCHES TO 17R. TALKED WITH ATC AFTER GATE ARRIVAL AND WE WERE TOLD THAT ATIS WOULD TELL US IF PROTECTED ILS SPACE WAS IN EFFECT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.