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An SF340 flight crew turns too early for the arrival procedure into msp when using the msp VOR versus the fcm VOR, mn.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 519015 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200107 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : msp.vortac |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : m98.tracon tower : dtw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | SF 340A |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Route In Use | arrival star : eau.eau5 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 130 |
| ASRS Report | 519015 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the eau claire 5 arrival to msp, the first officer and myself noticed the new radial inbound from twinz intersection (240 degree radial rather than 252 degree radial). We also noted that zaske was now at 18 DME. Msp was using runways 12L&right, so we turned at 18 DME to a 300 degree heading. The controller issued a 220 degree heading and stated that we had turned early. At that point, we realized our error in using the msp VOR for the arrival, rather than the recent change (jul/fri/01) to the fcm VOR. I believe complacency played the largest part in this error. Flying the arrival for yrs off the msp VOR, and it appears the same, with the exception of a 3 degree change in radial and the DME change. The first officer and myself discussed the arrival and found it odd that zaske had moved so far and we both assumed that the DME was off the msp VOR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SF340 FLC TURNS TOO EARLY FOR THE ARR PROC INTO MSP WHEN USING THE MSP VOR VERSUS THE FCM VOR, MN.
Narrative: ON THE EAU CLAIRE 5 ARR TO MSP, THE FO AND MYSELF NOTICED THE NEW RADIAL INBOUND FROM TWINZ INTXN (240 DEG RADIAL RATHER THAN 252 DEG RADIAL). WE ALSO NOTED THAT ZASKE WAS NOW AT 18 DME. MSP WAS USING RWYS 12L&R, SO WE TURNED AT 18 DME TO A 300 DEG HDG. THE CTLR ISSUED A 220 DEG HDG AND STATED THAT WE HAD TURNED EARLY. AT THAT POINT, WE REALIZED OUR ERROR IN USING THE MSP VOR FOR THE ARR, RATHER THAN THE RECENT CHANGE (JUL/FRI/01) TO THE FCM VOR. I BELIEVE COMPLACENCY PLAYED THE LARGEST PART IN THIS ERROR. FLYING THE ARR FOR YRS OFF THE MSP VOR, AND IT APPEARS THE SAME, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A 3 DEG CHANGE IN RADIAL AND THE DME CHANGE. THE FO AND MYSELF DISCUSSED THE ARR AND FOUND IT ODD THAT ZASKE HAD MOVED SO FAR AND WE BOTH ASSUMED THAT THE DME WAS OFF THE MSP VOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.