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A B737-300 flight is vectored too close on final behind an MD80 for the same runway 3 mi southeast of phx, az.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 518089 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200107 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon tower : phx.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon tower : phx.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 518089 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
On approach to phx from the south, was vectored by TRACON to a visual to runway 25L behind an MD80. ATC turned me on base leg and cleared me for the visual. Because of ATC's turn, I had only 1 - 1 1/2 mi spacing behind the MD80 and no way to slow enough to increase spacing. On call to tower I requested sidestep to runway 25R, but an aircraft had just gone into position. Tower offered me runway 26 on the north side which I accepted and was able to get stabilized before 500 ft, but not by much. TRACON really put be behind the 8 ball and extraordinary maneuvering on my part was required to avoid going around. I called them to give feedback.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-300 FLT IS VECTORED TOO CLOSE ON FINAL BEHIND AN MD80 FOR THE SAME RWY 3 MI SE OF PHX, AZ.
Narrative: ON APCH TO PHX FROM THE S, WAS VECTORED BY TRACON TO A VISUAL TO RWY 25L BEHIND AN MD80. ATC TURNED ME ON BASE LEG AND CLRED ME FOR THE VISUAL. BECAUSE OF ATC'S TURN, I HAD ONLY 1 - 1 1/2 MI SPACING BEHIND THE MD80 AND NO WAY TO SLOW ENOUGH TO INCREASE SPACING. ON CALL TO TWR I REQUESTED SIDESTEP TO RWY 25R, BUT AN ACFT HAD JUST GONE INTO POS. TWR OFFERED ME RWY 26 ON THE N SIDE WHICH I ACCEPTED AND WAS ABLE TO GET STABILIZED BEFORE 500 FT, BUT NOT BY MUCH. TRACON REALLY PUT BE BEHIND THE 8 BALL AND EXTRAORDINARY MANEUVERING ON MY PART WAS REQUIRED TO AVOID GOING AROUND. I CALLED THEM TO GIVE FEEDBACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.