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T75 controller has coordination breakdown with stl local controller requiring additional interfacility coordination to turn departing B733 off stl in potential conflict with departing LJ45 off sus airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 517183 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200107 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : t75.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 45 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller limited radar : 2 controller military : 3 controller radar : 18 controller supervisory : 0.25 |
| ASRS Report | 517183 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 48000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Air carrier X departed stl and climbed to 5000 ft on tower assigned heading of 305 degrees. Aircraft Y had departed sus 5 mins earlier and was on a conflicting heading with air carrier X and was also assigned 5000 ft. The departure controller had to call the tower and tell them to put air carrier X on the departure frequency. (Air carrier X was 6 mi off departure end of runway, out of tower airspace when this occurred.) the departure controller first talked to air carrier X 8 mi off the end of the runway at 5000 ft. He turned air carrier X south immediately and climbed him to 15000 ft. This averted an operational error that could have occurred. The airspace violation of the tower went unchallenged by the supervisors on duty, in the TRACON and the tower. This is becoming a routine thing in the stl and T75 facilities. This is to ignore stl tower errors but not T75 errors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: T75 CTLR HAS COORD BREAKDOWN WITH STL LCL CTLR REQUIRING ADDITIONAL INTERFAC COORD TO TURN DEPARTING B733 OFF STL IN POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH DEPARTING LJ45 OFF SUS ARPT.
Narrative: ACR X DEPARTED STL AND CLBED TO 5000 FT ON TWR ASSIGNED HDG OF 305 DEGS. ACFT Y HAD DEPARTED SUS 5 MINS EARLIER AND WAS ON A CONFLICTING HDG WITH ACR X AND WAS ALSO ASSIGNED 5000 FT. THE DEP CTLR HAD TO CALL THE TWR AND TELL THEM TO PUT ACR X ON THE DEP FREQ. (ACR X WAS 6 MI OFF DEP END OF RWY, OUT OF TWR AIRSPACE WHEN THIS OCCURRED.) THE DEP CTLR FIRST TALKED TO ACR X 8 MI OFF THE END OF THE RWY AT 5000 FT. HE TURNED ACR X S IMMEDIATELY AND CLBED HIM TO 15000 FT. THIS AVERTED AN OPERROR THAT COULD HAVE OCCURRED. THE AIRSPACE VIOLATION OF THE TWR WENT UNCHALLENGED BY THE SUPVRS ON DUTY, IN THE TRACON AND THE TWR. THIS IS BECOMING A ROUTINE THING IN THE STL AND T75 FACILITIES. THIS IS TO IGNORE STL TWR ERRORS BUT NOT T75 ERRORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.