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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 515991 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200106 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : iah.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : iah.tower artcc : zmp.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-800 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 3 flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 4300 |
| ASRS Report | 575991 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Approach was normal until touchdown, which was hard with a 3 ft bounce. Recovery from bounce was normal until last second when again, not enough flare was introduced to avoid a second hard landing. Later discussion with first officer revealed this event occurred for 2 main reasons: 1) first officer was new to aircraft (7 months) and was not used to the longer landing gear on the -800 aircraft. 2) first officer reported reluctance to flare due to fear of contacting the tailskid by over-rotating on landing. First officer was very contrite and receptive to my debriefing, and I don't think it will happen again. What I realized later was that I had almost given the first officer the first leg to reno where there was windshear reported. I will never offer first leg again to anyone with less than 1 yr on the aircraft. 'Hard landing' was noted in aircraft logbook.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER RECOVERING FROM THE FIRST BOUNCE DURING TOUCHDOWN, THE FO OF A B737-800 FAILED TO ARREST THE NEXT TOUCHDOWN AND MADE A HARD LNDG WHICH WAS RECORDED IN THE AFT LOG.
Narrative: APCH WAS NORMAL UNTIL TOUCHDOWN, WHICH WAS HARD WITH A 3 FT BOUNCE. RECOVERY FROM BOUNCE WAS NORMAL UNTIL LAST SECOND WHEN AGAIN, NOT ENOUGH FLARE WAS INTRODUCED TO AVOID A SECOND HARD LNDG. LATER DISCUSSION WITH FO REVEALED THIS EVENT OCCURRED FOR 2 MAIN REASONS: 1) FO WAS NEW TO ACFT (7 MONTHS) AND WAS NOT USED TO THE LONGER LNDG GEAR ON THE -800 ACFT. 2) FO RPTED RELUCTANCE TO FLARE DUE TO FEAR OF CONTACTING THE TAILSKID BY OVER-ROTATING ON LNDG. FO WAS VERY CONTRITE AND RECEPTIVE TO MY DEBRIEFING, AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. WHAT I REALIZED LATER WAS THAT I HAD ALMOST GIVEN THE FO THE FIRST LEG TO RENO WHERE THERE WAS WINDSHEAR RPTED. I WILL NEVER OFFER FIRST LEG AGAIN TO ANYONE WITH LESS THAN 1 YR ON THE ACFT. 'HARD LNDG' WAS NOTED IN ACFT LOGBOOK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.