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Sct reclrs B767 from civet to paradise STAR. With flight crew readback, controller misses that he has issued the wrong clearance. The flight crew is reclred back to the civet STAR when course deviation is recognized.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 514349 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200106 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : civet |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : civet |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time type : 1644 |
| ASRS Report | 514349 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On arrival to lax, socal approach cleared us to FL190 and 280 KTS. Just outside civet, we were changed over to another controller and we were instructed to cross civet at or above 14000 ft and cleared the paradise 4 arrival for runway 24R, which sent us scrambling. Upon loading and finding the STAR and informing the controller civet doesn't connect to the paradise 4 to runway 24, he informed us we should be on the civet arrival to runway 25L. (Note: the controller was also controling the paradise arrival, and when an aircraft checked in after us he cleared him on the paradise arrival to runway 24R. When we read back the clearance he didn't correct us.) he gave us a vector to pick up the civet and cleared us on the arrival. As we reloaded the STAR and dialed in the frequency we were approximately 1-2 mi north off course, he gave us a reintercept heading and we were on profile by arnes. Recommendations: have the initial socal approach controller assign and or confirm the arrival STAR, not the second controller. Just outside civet is not the place to be given a STAR change and this is becoming the norm at lax.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SCT RECLRS B767 FROM CIVET TO PARADISE STAR. WITH FLC READBACK, CTLR MISSES THAT HE HAS ISSUED THE WRONG CLRNC. THE FLC IS RECLRED BACK TO THE CIVET STAR WHEN COURSE DEV IS RECOGNIZED.
Narrative: ON ARR TO LAX, SOCAL APCH CLRED US TO FL190 AND 280 KTS. JUST OUTSIDE CIVET, WE WERE CHANGED OVER TO ANOTHER CTLR AND WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CROSS CIVET AT OR ABOVE 14000 FT AND CLRED THE PARADISE 4 ARR FOR RWY 24R, WHICH SENT US SCRAMBLING. UPON LOADING AND FINDING THE STAR AND INFORMING THE CTLR CIVET DOESN'T CONNECT TO THE PARADISE 4 TO RWY 24, HE INFORMED US WE SHOULD BE ON THE CIVET ARR TO RWY 25L. (NOTE: THE CTLR WAS ALSO CTLING THE PARADISE ARR, AND WHEN AN ACFT CHKED IN AFTER US HE CLRED HIM ON THE PARADISE ARR TO RWY 24R. WHEN WE READ BACK THE CLRNC HE DIDN'T CORRECT US.) HE GAVE US A VECTOR TO PICK UP THE CIVET AND CLRED US ON THE ARR. AS WE RELOADED THE STAR AND DIALED IN THE FREQ WE WERE APPROX 1-2 MI N OFF COURSE, HE GAVE US A REINTERCEPT HEADING AND WE WERE ON PROFILE BY ARNES. RECOMMENDATIONS: HAVE THE INITIAL SOCAL APCH CTLR ASSIGN AND OR CONFIRM THE ARR STAR, NOT THE SECOND CTLR. JUST OUTSIDE CIVET IS NOT THE PLACE TO BE GIVEN A STAR CHANGE AND THIS IS BECOMING THE NORM AT LAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.