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EMB145 captain made a steep left turn and climbed in response to a TCASII RA and the first officer's instructions to make a hard left turn after sighting a beech king air. ARTCC controller also gave a TA.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 513091 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200105 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : advil |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11500 msl bound upper : 11900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : wilbur 2 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Super King Air 300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | arrival star : wilbur 2 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16500 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 513051 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
We had received a clearance to cross advit intersection at 11000 ft on the wilbur 2 arrival. Descending through 11900 ft, TCASII popped up on our mfd with a TA and a '-9' diamond indication (traffic 900 ft below us) autoplt was on in a 1500-2000 FPM descent mode. First officer and I immediately were searching for traffic below us and slightly to our right. Before I knew it, I (at 11400 ft) heard a TCASII 'climb' command, disconnected the autoplt, started turning left and climbed while the first officer screamed over the intercom 'I got him...turn left...turn hard left...more' and I could hear ATC call and call for a king air to answer him. This all happened very fast and at the same time! My heart was racing and I told my first officer I could not turn steeper (greater than 45 degrees) and to report our altitude and course deviations to center. After center switched us over right away, I went back to previous frequency and reported again: evasive action taken. Unsafe.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB145 CAPT MADE A STEEP L TURN AND CLBED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND THE FO'S INSTRUCTIONS TO MAKE A HARD L TURN AFTER SIGHTING A BEECH KING AIR. ARTCC CTLR ALSO GAVE A TA.
Narrative: WE HAD RECEIVED A CLRNC TO CROSS ADVIT INTXN AT 11000 FT ON THE WILBUR 2 ARR. DSNDING THROUGH 11900 FT, TCASII POPPED UP ON OUR MFD WITH A TA AND A '-9' DIAMOND INDICATION (TFC 900 FT BELOW US) AUTOPLT WAS ON IN A 1500-2000 FPM DSCNT MODE. FO AND I IMMEDIATELY WERE SEARCHING FOR TFC BELOW US AND SLIGHTLY TO OUR R. BEFORE I KNEW IT, I (AT 11400 FT) HEARD A TCASII 'CLB' COMMAND, DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, STARTED TURNING L AND CLBED WHILE THE FO SCREAMED OVER THE INTERCOM 'I GOT HIM...TURN L...TURN HARD L...MORE' AND I COULD HEAR ATC CALL AND CALL FOR A KING AIR TO ANSWER HIM. THIS ALL HAPPENED VERY FAST AND AT THE SAME TIME! MY HEART WAS RACING AND I TOLD MY FO I COULD NOT TURN STEEPER (GREATER THAN 45 DEGS) AND TO RPT OUR ALT AND COURSE DEVS TO CTR. AFTER CTR SWITCHED US OVER RIGHT AWAY, I WENT BACK TO PREVIOUS FREQ AND RPTED AGAIN: EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN. UNSAFE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.