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Helicopter departing vny strays into bur class C airspace expecting a frequency change or handoff from vny.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 512244 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200105 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bur.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bur.tower |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bur.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 295 |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government other |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 770 flight time type : 570 |
| ASRS Report | 512244 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed vny on an east departure. Vny was slow in handing us off to bur, and I realized that we were into bur's class C airspace. I had expected to be handed off from the vny controller to bur's in a timely manner (as had occurred earlier this same day), but that didn't happen. I requested a frequency change to bur. As I switched to bur's frequency, I heard an air carrier pilot describing my helicopter. I found myself in the way of his approach into bur. When the frequency was available, I quickly idented myself and got out of the way. As a result of my expectation of being transitioned from one controller to another, I inadvertently crossed the extended centerline of a bur runway without talking to ATC first. The bur controller explained the necessity for a call prior to crossing the extended centerline of the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HELI DEPARTING VNY STRAYS INTO BUR CLASS C AIRSPACE EXPECTING A FREQ CHANGE OR HDOF FROM VNY.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED VNY ON AN E DEP. VNY WAS SLOW IN HANDING US OFF TO BUR, AND I REALIZED THAT WE WERE INTO BUR'S CLASS C AIRSPACE. I HAD EXPECTED TO BE HANDED OFF FROM THE VNY CTLR TO BUR'S IN A TIMELY MANNER (AS HAD OCCURRED EARLIER THIS SAME DAY), BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I REQUESTED A FREQ CHANGE TO BUR. AS I SWITCHED TO BUR'S FREQ, I HEARD AN ACR PLT DESCRIBING MY HELI. I FOUND MYSELF IN THE WAY OF HIS APCH INTO BUR. WHEN THE FREQ WAS AVAILABLE, I QUICKLY IDENTED MYSELF AND GOT OUT OF THE WAY. AS A RESULT OF MY EXPECTATION OF BEING TRANSITIONED FROM ONE CTLR TO ANOTHER, I INADVERTENTLY CROSSED THE EXTENDED CTRLINE OF A BUR RWY WITHOUT TALKING TO ATC FIRST. THE BUR CTLR EXPLAINED THE NECESSITY FOR A CALL PRIOR TO XING THE EXTENDED CTRLINE OF THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.