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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 511457 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200105 |
| Day | Sun |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unk |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 511457 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Pilot Deviation Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X departed runway 9L. The top of my airspace is 10000 ft. I climbed air carrier X to 8000 ft because I took a pointout of another aircraft (overflt to lga) at 9000 ft. I became involved with a routing change to another aircraft and did not notice air carrier X had no transponder. The controller working the overflt to lga descended aircraft Y from 9000 ft to 7000 ft. At that time air carrier X reported to me he was level at 8000 ft. (I imagine the pilot suspected I forgot about him, which I had.) I asked air carrier X his position and his transponder came on at that time, in proximity to lga overflt Y descending to 7000 ft -- who at that time was behind air carrier X.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEP CTLR EXPERIENCES LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN HIS DEP B737 FLT X, AND AN OVERFLT ACFT Y PROCEEDING N THROUGH THE CLASS B AIRSPACE 20 MI E OF PHL, PA.
Narrative: ACR X DEPARTED RWY 9L. THE TOP OF MY AIRSPACE IS 10000 FT. I CLBED ACR X TO 8000 FT BECAUSE I TOOK A POINTOUT OF ANOTHER ACFT (OVERFLT TO LGA) AT 9000 FT. I BECAME INVOLVED WITH A ROUTING CHANGE TO ANOTHER ACFT AND DID NOT NOTICE ACR X HAD NO XPONDER. THE CTLR WORKING THE OVERFLT TO LGA DSNDED ACFT Y FROM 9000 FT TO 7000 FT. AT THAT TIME ACR X RPTED TO ME HE WAS LEVEL AT 8000 FT. (I IMAGINE THE PLT SUSPECTED I FORGOT ABOUT HIM, WHICH I HAD.) I ASKED ACR X HIS POS AND HIS XPONDER CAME ON AT THAT TIME, IN PROX TO LGA OVERFLT Y DSNDING TO 7000 FT -- WHO AT THAT TIME WAS BEHIND ACR X.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.