D328 crew had improper handling by ZOB in cak class C airspace.

Attributes
ACN	502340
Time
Date	200102
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0001 To 0600
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cak.airport
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl single value : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zob.artcc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Do 328 TP (Turboprop)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	ils localizer & glide slope : 23 other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2600 flight time type : 1600
ASRS Report	502340
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Weather
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : zob.artcc staffing : cak.tracon

Narrative:

Late night maintenance ferry, pushing 14 hours of duty, exhausted. At this time of night, cak approach is not open, so ZOB asked what approach we were planning. We asked for vectors outside of eggii for the ILS 23. ZOB turned us downwind, we were 5 mi past eggii and asked to be turned inbound. Controller said 'turn left 290 degrees cleared approach.' well 'cleared approach' means our choice, but we didn't want to fly a full approach, so I asked controller to verify cleared for a 'straight-in ILS runway 23 at cak.' he replied 'left 250 degrees now, 3200 ft till on a published segment, cleared approach.' again controller didn't state the procedure, so I read back the clearance with the procedure included. Controller handed us off to tower shortly thereafter. I was tired, could barely pay attention, was slurring on the radio, and was dealing with a captain who does what he wants, so as I was trying to clear up our clearance, he declared (and turned) that he was just 'gonna go to eggii.' I hope we did what the controller wanted, but for the life of me I could not get him to verify a straight-in ILS clearance.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: D328 CREW HAD IMPROPER HANDLING BY ZOB IN CAK CLASS C AIRSPACE.

Narrative: LATE NIGHT MAINT FERRY, PUSHING 14 HRS OF DUTY, EXHAUSTED. AT THIS TIME OF NIGHT, CAK APCH IS NOT OPEN, SO ZOB ASKED WHAT APCH WE WERE PLANNING. WE ASKED FOR VECTORS OUTSIDE OF EGGII FOR THE ILS 23. ZOB TURNED US DOWNWIND, WE WERE 5 MI PAST EGGII AND ASKED TO BE TURNED INBOUND. CTLR SAID 'TURN L 290 DEGS CLRED APCH.' WELL 'CLRED APCH' MEANS OUR CHOICE, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO FLY A FULL APCH, SO I ASKED CTLR TO VERIFY CLRED FOR A 'STRAIGHT-IN ILS RWY 23 AT CAK.' HE REPLIED 'L 250 DEGS NOW, 3200 FT TILL ON A PUBLISHED SEGMENT, CLRED APCH.' AGAIN CTLR DIDN'T STATE THE PROC, SO I READ BACK THE CLRNC WITH THE PROC INCLUDED. CTLR HANDED US OFF TO TWR SHORTLY THEREAFTER. I WAS TIRED, COULD BARELY PAY ATTN, WAS SLURRING ON THE RADIO, AND WAS DEALING WITH A CAPT WHO DOES WHAT HE WANTS, SO AS I WAS TRYING TO CLR UP OUR CLRNC, HE DECLARED (AND TURNED) THAT HE WAS JUST 'GONNA GO TO EGGII.' I HOPE WE DID WHAT THE CTLR WANTED, BUT FOR THE LIFE OF ME I COULD NOT GET HIM TO VERIFY A STRAIGHT-IN ILS CLRNC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.