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Air carrier medium large transport flight crew failed to start their climb to a higher cruise altitude when turning to an assigned new heading.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 500919 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200102 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : als.vor |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Route In Use | departure sid : pikes two |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 500919 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 500920 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing pikes 2 cleared direct pumps J102 as filed climb FL310. Missed the FL310 part and made the turn while staying at FL280. ATC queried, was told to climb to FL310 and that we had been previously given that clearance. The clearance included 4 items and obviously 1 dropped out. Too many at once? Also, we needed to discuss the clearance as it was exactly what we had previously been cleared and we were trying to figure out if there was indeed a change to the route. Why give the same information twice and complicate the important part -- the climb and the direction -- any more than needed?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG FLC FAILED TO START THEIR CLB TO A HIGHER CRUISE ALT WHEN TURNING TO AN ASSIGNED NEW HDG.
Narrative: DEPARTING PIKES 2 CLRED DIRECT PUMPS J102 AS FILED CLB FL310. MISSED THE FL310 PART AND MADE THE TURN WHILE STAYING AT FL280. ATC QUERIED, WAS TOLD TO CLB TO FL310 AND THAT WE HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY GIVEN THAT CLRNC. THE CLRNC INCLUDED 4 ITEMS AND OBVIOUSLY 1 DROPPED OUT. TOO MANY AT ONCE? ALSO, WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS THE CLRNC AS IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN CLRED AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS INDEED A CHANGE TO THE RTE. WHY GIVE THE SAME INFO TWICE AND COMPLICATE THE IMPORTANT PART -- THE CLB AND THE DIRECTION -- ANY MORE THAN NEEDED?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.