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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 498440 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200101 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : awm.airport |
| State Reference | AR |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 498440 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was receiving dual recurrency training with an ATP cfii and had just completed a practice ILS at awm. In departing the area in IFR to do air work, I realized we had inadvertently entered overflying class B airspace when we exceeded 3000 ft MSL. I thought we were in an area permitting 5000 ft MSL. We were close, but not there yet. I don't think ATC will contact us, but nevertheless it was a lesson learned. Technically, any enforcement action would probably be against the instructor, but I still feel responsible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRAINING FLT CLBS INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE AFTER A PRACTICE ILS APCH AT AN UNCTLED ARPT UNDERLYING CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I WAS RECEIVING DUAL RECURRENCY TRAINING WITH AN ATP CFII AND HAD JUST COMPLETED A PRACTICE ILS AT AWM. IN DEPARTING THE AREA IN IFR TO DO AIR WORK, I REALIZED WE HAD INADVERTENTLY ENTERED OVERFLYING CLASS B AIRSPACE WHEN WE EXCEEDED 3000 FT MSL. I THOUGHT WE WERE IN AN AREA PERMITTING 5000 FT MSL. WE WERE CLOSE, BUT NOT THERE YET. I DON'T THINK ATC WILL CONTACT US, BUT NEVERTHELESS IT WAS A LESSON LEARNED. TECHNICALLY, ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION WOULD PROBABLY BE AGAINST THE INSTRUCTOR, BUT I STILL FEEL RESPONSIBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.