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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 498440 | 
| Time | |
| Date | 200101 | 
| Day | Sun | 
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 | 
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : awm.airport | 
| State Reference | AR | 
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3300  | 
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC | 
| Light | Daylight | 
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal | 
| Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 | 
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude | 
| Route In Use | departure : vfr | 
| Flight Plan | None | 
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other | 
| Function | instruction : trainee | 
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine  | 
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 600  | 
| ASRS Report | 498440 | 
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other | 
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic  | 
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp  | 
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far  | 
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb  | 
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace | 
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance | 
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance | 
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation | 
Narrative:
I was receiving dual recurrency training with an ATP cfii and had just completed a practice ILS at awm. In departing the area in IFR to do air work, I realized we had inadvertently entered overflying class B airspace when we exceeded 3000 ft MSL. I thought we were in an area permitting 5000 ft MSL. We were close, but not there yet. I don't think ATC will contact us, but nevertheless it was a lesson learned. Technically, any enforcement action would probably be against the instructor, but I still feel responsible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRAINING FLT CLBS INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE AFTER A PRACTICE ILS APCH AT AN UNCTLED ARPT UNDERLYING CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I WAS RECEIVING DUAL RECURRENCY TRAINING WITH AN ATP CFII AND HAD JUST COMPLETED A PRACTICE ILS AT AWM. IN DEPARTING THE AREA IN IFR TO DO AIR WORK, I REALIZED WE HAD INADVERTENTLY ENTERED OVERFLYING CLASS B AIRSPACE WHEN WE EXCEEDED 3000 FT MSL. I THOUGHT WE WERE IN AN AREA PERMITTING 5000 FT MSL. WE WERE CLOSE, BUT NOT THERE YET. I DON'T THINK ATC WILL CONTACT US, BUT NEVERTHELESS IT WAS A LESSON LEARNED. TECHNICALLY, ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION WOULD PROBABLY BE AGAINST THE INSTRUCTOR, BUT I STILL FEEL RESPONSIBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.