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Captain of an EMB145 stopped over the runway hold short line after being cleared to cross runway when the first officer observed a CL65 on short final and alerted the captain to stop. Tower sent the CL65 around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 495831 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200012 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : cle.tower tower : bdl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : cle.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 495831 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 750 |
| ASRS Report | 496012 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 2500 vertical : 800 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
The captain and I were flying flight XXX. We were holding short of runway 23L on runway 28 (normal). The tower controller cleared us to cross runway 23L and position and hold runway 23R. We were doing the before takeoff checklist. As we started to taxi, I cleared final and saw an aircraft on short final. The aircraft seemed to be coming in fairly fast. I told the captain that there was an aircraft coming quickly, he stopped to also look and agreed. However, at that point, the aircraft was about 4-5 ft across the hold short line. We queried the controller. He, being frustrated, told the other aircraft to go around. He angrily stated that at the time of the clearance there was adequate separation. We were then reclred to cross runway 23L, and cleared for takeoff runway 23R. The separation between a B737 taking off on runway 23R and us ended also being fairly close.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN EMB145 STOPPED OVER THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE AFTER BEING CLRED TO CROSS RWY WHEN THE FO OBSERVED A CL65 ON SHORT FINAL AND ALERTED THE CAPT TO STOP. TWR SENT THE CL65 AROUND.
Narrative: THE CAPT AND I WERE FLYING FLT XXX. WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 23L ON RWY 28 (NORMAL). THE TWR CTLR CLRED US TO CROSS RWY 23L AND POS AND HOLD RWY 23R. WE WERE DOING THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST. AS WE STARTED TO TAXI, I CLRED FINAL AND SAW AN ACFT ON SHORT FINAL. THE ACFT SEEMED TO BE COMING IN FAIRLY FAST. I TOLD THE CAPT THAT THERE WAS AN ACFT COMING QUICKLY, HE STOPPED TO ALSO LOOK AND AGREED. HOWEVER, AT THAT POINT, THE ACFT WAS ABOUT 4-5 FT ACROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE. WE QUERIED THE CTLR. HE, BEING FRUSTRATED, TOLD THE OTHER ACFT TO GO AROUND. HE ANGRILY STATED THAT AT THE TIME OF THE CLRNC THERE WAS ADEQUATE SEPARATION. WE WERE THEN RECLRED TO CROSS RWY 23L, AND CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 23R. THE SEPARATION BTWN A B737 TAKING OFF ON RWY 23R AND US ENDED ALSO BEING FAIRLY CLOSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.