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Air carrier crew flew a CL65 with an unsigned airworthiness certificate. Company maintenance said it was ok and company flight operations disagreed. Appropriate discrepancy was entered in the log.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 495530 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200012 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cyyz.airport |
| State Reference | ON |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 495530 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 495772 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | maintenance problem : improper documentation non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
During the preflight, I noticed that the airworthiness certificate did not have a signature on it. I asked the mechanic if he knew whether the signature was required or not. He didn't know. I asked if he would call maintenance control and ask them about it. The mechanic told me that 'they are trying to determine if it is or not.' about 30 mins later, they told the mechanic that it was not required. We flew the aircraft to destination. I asked my chief pilot if it was/is required and he said 'yes, it is required.' I went back to the aircraft and wrote it up in the discrepancy log.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CREW FLEW A CL65 WITH AN UNSIGNED AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE. COMPANY MAINT SAID IT WAS OK AND COMPANY FLT OPS DISAGREED. APPROPRIATE DISCREPANCY WAS ENTERED IN THE LOG.
Narrative: DURING THE PREFLT, I NOTICED THAT THE AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE DID NOT HAVE A SIGNATURE ON IT. I ASKED THE MECH IF HE KNEW WHETHER THE SIGNATURE WAS REQUIRED OR NOT. HE DIDN'T KNOW. I ASKED IF HE WOULD CALL MAINT CTL AND ASK THEM ABOUT IT. THE MECH TOLD ME THAT 'THEY ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF IT IS OR NOT.' ABOUT 30 MINS LATER, THEY TOLD THE MECH THAT IT WAS NOT REQUIRED. WE FLEW THE ACFT TO DEST. I ASKED MY CHIEF PLT IF IT WAS/IS REQUIRED AND HE SAID 'YES, IT IS REQUIRED.' I WENT BACK TO THE ACFT AND WROTE IT UP IN THE DISCREPANCY LOG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.