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Flight crew of an airbus A319 stopped during taxiing off runway for an SF340 blocking the taxiway resulting in inadequately clearing the runway. They then noticed heavy air carrier aircraft passing behind them on the takeoff roll.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 494160 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200012 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A319 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | SF 340A |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 494160 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 494161 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
After landing msp runway 30R as we were passing 'P6,' tower asked if we could make 'P6.' first officer said 'no, but we can make the reverse.' tower said 'expedite off 'G,' contact ground 131.57' (not a published frequency, so we had wrong frequency preselected). As we made turn onto taxiway G, taxi lights revealed a saab on parallel taxiway P right in front of us. Before we could get a word in, a new heavy passed behind us on the roll. Distance unknown, but was close. Even after incident, tower/ground was unable to tell if we had room to clear onto taxiway P. Tower cannot ask an aircraft to expedite off runway when there is nowhere to go. Later conversation with tower supervisor revealed that the heavy aircraft was also concerned about clearance. Tower supervisor's response was 'this is an old airport with not enough txwys and during a 'push,' we don't have room for all the aircraft.' I did not get the impression he appreciated the severity of the situation. He did say he would discuss the incident with his personnel.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN AIRBUS A319 STOPPED DURING TAXIING OFF RWY FOR AN SF340 BLOCKING THE TXWY RESULTING IN INADEQUATELY CLRING THE RWY. THEY THEN NOTICED HVY ACR ACFT PASSING BEHIND THEM ON THE TKOF ROLL.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG MSP RWY 30R AS WE WERE PASSING 'P6,' TWR ASKED IF WE COULD MAKE 'P6.' FO SAID 'NO, BUT WE CAN MAKE THE REVERSE.' TWR SAID 'EXPEDITE OFF 'G,' CONTACT GND 131.57' (NOT A PUBLISHED FREQ, SO WE HAD WRONG FREQ PRESELECTED). AS WE MADE TURN ONTO TXWY G, TAXI LIGHTS REVEALED A SAAB ON PARALLEL TXWY P RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. BEFORE WE COULD GET A WORD IN, A NEW HVY PASSED BEHIND US ON THE ROLL. DISTANCE UNKNOWN, BUT WAS CLOSE. EVEN AFTER INCIDENT, TWR/GND WAS UNABLE TO TELL IF WE HAD ROOM TO CLR ONTO TXWY P. TWR CANNOT ASK AN ACFT TO EXPEDITE OFF RWY WHEN THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO. LATER CONVERSATION WITH TWR SUPVR REVEALED THAT THE HVY ACFT WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT CLRNC. TWR SUPVR'S RESPONSE WAS 'THIS IS AN OLD ARPT WITH NOT ENOUGH TXWYS AND DURING A 'PUSH,' WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR ALL THE ACFT.' I DID NOT GET THE IMPRESSION HE APPRECIATED THE SEVERITY OF THE SIT. HE DID SAY HE WOULD DISCUSS THE INCIDENT WITH HIS PERSONNEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.