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Subsequent landing GA pilot questions previous landing GA pilot as to proper traffic pattern procedures.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 493650 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200011 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : m01.airport |
| State Reference | TN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 175 |
| ASRS Report | 493650 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : executed go around |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was flying VFR into de witt spain airport, tn. I saw and heard a cessna on crosswind leg. After he (aircraft Y) made his initial announcement of being on crosswind and downwind for runway 34, I followed up by announcing that I was about to enter base leg for runway 34. He said 'where are you?' I advised 'I am entering base leg for runway 34.' he advised 'I don't see you.' I stated 'I am turning final for runway 34.' he stated 'I still don't see you.' (he is sbound and I am on short final.) I advised 'sir! Look out your left window and you will see me on short final for runway 34.' he stated 'oh, yes, I see you now!' after landing, I heard him announce that he was going around and that he was with the FAA. Clear of the runway, I turned the radios off. 10 mins later he showed up and wanted to see my license and physical. I think the gentleman overreacted, and could have extended his downwind by 30 seconds and been fine. He is an elderly gentleman and someone should check his eye sight and hearing. After he calmed down, he seemed to be an ok guy. I apologized for inconveniencing him, we shook hands, and he parted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SUBSEQUENT LNDG GA PLT QUESTIONS PREVIOUS LNDG GA PLT AS TO PROPER TFC PATTERN PROCS.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING VFR INTO DE WITT SPAIN ARPT, TN. I SAW AND HEARD A CESSNA ON XWIND LEG. AFTER HE (ACFT Y) MADE HIS INITIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF BEING ON XWIND AND DOWNWIND FOR RWY 34, I FOLLOWED UP BY ANNOUNCING THAT I WAS ABOUT TO ENTER BASE LEG FOR RWY 34. HE SAID 'WHERE ARE YOU?' I ADVISED 'I AM ENTERING BASE LEG FOR RWY 34.' HE ADVISED 'I DON'T SEE YOU.' I STATED 'I AM TURNING FINAL FOR RWY 34.' HE STATED 'I STILL DON'T SEE YOU.' (HE IS SBOUND AND I AM ON SHORT FINAL.) I ADVISED 'SIR! LOOK OUT YOUR L WINDOW AND YOU WILL SEE ME ON SHORT FINAL FOR RWY 34.' HE STATED 'OH, YES, I SEE YOU NOW!' AFTER LNDG, I HEARD HIM ANNOUNCE THAT HE WAS GOING AROUND AND THAT HE WAS WITH THE FAA. CLR OF THE RWY, I TURNED THE RADIOS OFF. 10 MINS LATER HE SHOWED UP AND WANTED TO SEE MY LICENSE AND PHYSICAL. I THINK THE GENTLEMAN OVERREACTED, AND COULD HAVE EXTENDED HIS DOWNWIND BY 30 SECONDS AND BEEN FINE. HE IS AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN AND SOMEONE SHOULD CHK HIS EYE SIGHT AND HEARING. AFTER HE CALMED DOWN, HE SEEMED TO BE AN OK GUY. I APOLOGIZED FOR INCONVENIENCING HIM, WE SHOOK HANDS, AND HE PARTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.