Altitude overshoot on departure from charlottesville, va, with a dispute about what the altitude ass...

Attributes
ACN	488956
Time
Date	200010
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cho.airport
State Reference	VA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5800
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ric.tracon tower : cho.tower tracon : p50.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Jetstream 41
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 119
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	488956
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine
ASRS Report	488960
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to assigned altitude
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

While holding short in cho we were given a clearance to go direct to ogate and maintain 7000 ft. After departure, we checked in with ric approach and he cleared us to csn. Climbing through 5800 ft he inquired as to why we were not maintaining 5000 ft that he issued to us. The first officer and I did not get a change in altitude that he claims he issued to us. We descended to 5000 ft with no further discussion of the incident. Supplemental information from acn 488960: we received initial clearance from cho ground to iad direct gve, 5000 ft, in conjunction with our takeoff clearance we were given direct ogate maintain 7000 ft. While checking in with richmond we were given direct csn. The cockpit was quiet as was the ric frequency, cockpit workload was light, so it seems unlikely that both of us missed the altitude assignment. In this case as always, we checked in with direct ogate climbing to 7000 ft.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ALT OVERSHOOT ON DEP FROM CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA, WITH A DISPUTE ABOUT WHAT THE ALT ASSIGNMENT WAS.

Narrative: WHILE HOLDING SHORT IN CHO WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO GO DIRECT TO OGATE AND MAINTAIN 7000 FT. AFTER DEP, WE CHKED IN WITH RIC APCH AND HE CLRED US TO CSN. CLBING THROUGH 5800 FT HE INQUIRED AS TO WHY WE WERE NOT MAINTAINING 5000 FT THAT HE ISSUED TO US. THE FO AND I DID NOT GET A CHANGE IN ALT THAT HE CLAIMS HE ISSUED TO US. WE DSNDED TO 5000 FT WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE INCIDENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 488960: WE RECEIVED INITIAL CLRNC FROM CHO GND TO IAD DIRECT GVE, 5000 FT, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR TKOF CLRNC WE WERE GIVEN DIRECT OGATE MAINTAIN 7000 FT. WHILE CHKING IN WITH RICHMOND WE WERE GIVEN DIRECT CSN. THE COCKPIT WAS QUIET AS WAS THE RIC FREQ, COCKPIT WORKLOAD WAS LIGHT, SO IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT BOTH OF US MISSED THE ALT ASSIGNMENT. IN THIS CASE AS ALWAYS, WE CHKED IN WITH DIRECT OGATE CLBING TO 7000 FT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Altitude overshoot on departure from charlottesville, va, with a dispute about what the altitude assignment was.