Narrative:

A falcon jet 10 departed teb for fort wayne. Runway 6/24 at teb was closed due to construction and the first portion of runway 19 closed due to construction which left 4300 ft available for takeoff. Matter of fact, we had to defuel to meet balanced field and second segment climb requirements which resulted in an unplanned fuel stop. We were cleared the dalton departure which is runway heading (10) to 800 ft with a right turn to 280 degrees, level off at 1300 ft. Stay within 4 mi of the teb VOR, not to exceed 190 KTS, and when passing the 230 degree radial, pick up IFR clearance to destination. This is a VFR departure. What about radio failure? Where is the clearance limit? To confuse the departure, meadow lands had an event in progress with 2 airships and several banner towing aircraft around the stadium at 1000-1500 ft. The stadium is very close to teb, to the south, in the direction of our takeoff. This departure, for high performance jets, is not acceptable. We have to consider balanced fields, second segment climb requirements. With the necessary body angles and high rates of climbs, low level turns, speed restrs, and low leveloffs are not desirable. With the traffic in mind, we exceeded the 4 mi restr and did not come to the 280 degree heading until south of the stadium. We have no complaint with controllers. The departure should be reviewed. I'm confident that we were not the first. If the stadium had not been active, the departure would not have been that concerning, but still, this departure needs to be addressed for high performance aircraft.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A DA10 JET DELAYS ITS TURN SOME 2 MI TO 280 DEGS WHEN NOTING SOME ACFT AND AIRSHIPS NEAR A STADIUM IN PROX OF DEP RTE S OF TEB, NJ.

Narrative: A FALCON JET 10 DEPARTED TEB FOR FORT WAYNE. RWY 6/24 AT TEB WAS CLOSED DUE TO CONSTRUCTION AND THE FIRST PORTION OF RWY 19 CLOSED DUE TO CONSTRUCTION WHICH LEFT 4300 FT AVAILABLE FOR TKOF. MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD TO DEFUEL TO MEET BALANCED FIELD AND SECOND SEGMENT CLB REQUIREMENTS WHICH RESULTED IN AN UNPLANNED FUEL STOP. WE WERE CLRED THE DALTON DEP WHICH IS RWY HDG (10) TO 800 FT WITH A R TURN TO 280 DEGS, LEVEL OFF AT 1300 FT. STAY WITHIN 4 MI OF THE TEB VOR, NOT TO EXCEED 190 KTS, AND WHEN PASSING THE 230 DEG RADIAL, PICK UP IFR CLRNC TO DEST. THIS IS A VFR DEP. WHAT ABOUT RADIO FAILURE? WHERE IS THE CLRNC LIMIT? TO CONFUSE THE DEP, MEADOW LANDS HAD AN EVENT IN PROGRESS WITH 2 AIRSHIPS AND SEVERAL BANNER TOWING ACFT AROUND THE STADIUM AT 1000-1500 FT. THE STADIUM IS VERY CLOSE TO TEB, TO THE S, IN THE DIRECTION OF OUR TKOF. THIS DEP, FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE JETS, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE HAVE TO CONSIDER BALANCED FIELDS, SECOND SEGMENT CLB REQUIREMENTS. WITH THE NECESSARY BODY ANGLES AND HIGH RATES OF CLBS, LOW LEVEL TURNS, SPD RESTRS, AND LOW LEVELOFFS ARE NOT DESIRABLE. WITH THE TFC IN MIND, WE EXCEEDED THE 4 MI RESTR AND DID NOT COME TO THE 280 DEG HDG UNTIL S OF THE STADIUM. WE HAVE NO COMPLAINT WITH CTLRS. THE DEP SHOULD BE REVIEWED. I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE WERE NOT THE FIRST. IF THE STADIUM HAD NOT BEEN ACTIVE, THE DEP WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THAT CONCERNING, BUT STILL, THIS DEP NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE ACFT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.