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A CL65 PIC exceeds the speed limit set for departure turns during radar vectoring from departure controller at iad.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 486370 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200009 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 486370 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to original clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After departure from iad, iad departure turned us to a heading of north (360 degrees) and a speed of 250 KIAS at 10000 ft. The controller turned us to 110 degrees and 250 KTS till out of the turn. I started the turn with the autoplt on and the 1/2 bank still on from takeoff. I let the speed build to 280 KTS, and the controller turned us to 130 degrees then to 180 degrees. As we went through 080 degrees, I noticed the 1/2 bank still on and turned it off. The controller asked me my speed and I told him '250 KTS and starting to increase.' he told me 'you were assigned 250 KTS till out of the turn.' I replied 'ok, we're going through 090 degrees and 250 KTS.' to prevent this again, turn 1/2 bank off after takeoff and stay at speed for ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 PIC EXCEEDS THE SPD LIMIT SET FOR DEP TURNS DURING RADAR VECTORING FROM DEP CTLR AT IAD.
Narrative: AFTER DEP FROM IAD, IAD DEP TURNED US TO A HDG OF N (360 DEGS) AND A SPD OF 250 KIAS AT 10000 FT. THE CTLR TURNED US TO 110 DEGS AND 250 KTS TILL OUT OF THE TURN. I STARTED THE TURN WITH THE AUTOPLT ON AND THE 1/2 BANK STILL ON FROM TKOF. I LET THE SPD BUILD TO 280 KTS, AND THE CTLR TURNED US TO 130 DEGS THEN TO 180 DEGS. AS WE WENT THROUGH 080 DEGS, I NOTICED THE 1/2 BANK STILL ON AND TURNED IT OFF. THE CTLR ASKED ME MY SPD AND I TOLD HIM '250 KTS AND STARTING TO INCREASE.' HE TOLD ME 'YOU WERE ASSIGNED 250 KTS TILL OUT OF THE TURN.' I REPLIED 'OK, WE'RE GOING THROUGH 090 DEGS AND 250 KTS.' TO PREVENT THIS AGAIN, TURN 1/2 BANK OFF AFTER TKOF AND STAY AT SPD FOR ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.