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A DC8-63 freighter landing at fat, ca, reports landing short of the displaced threshold because of poorly displayed runway markings.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 483782 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200008 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fat.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-8 63 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 483782 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Having flown only once before into fat when runway 29R threshold was displaced, I knew the displaced threshold was somewhere close to where taxiway F intersects the runway. Flying visually, without vertical guidance and after having briefed the crew that I intended to land as close as possible to the displaced threshold, I made a normal touchdown past the painted arrows just prior to intersection F. Upon taxi back, we noticed the unlit 4 ft by 4 ft boards on the ground outside of the runway and realized we touched down approximately 300 ft short. The new concrete poured looks somewhat like poorly painted touchdown marking. Also, there are orange cones on the runway, but they are down by the painted arrows/line. No comment from ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC8-63 FREIGHTER LNDG AT FAT, CA, RPTS LNDG SHORT OF THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD BECAUSE OF POORLY DISPLAYED RWY MARKINGS.
Narrative: HAVING FLOWN ONLY ONCE BEFORE INTO FAT WHEN RWY 29R THRESHOLD WAS DISPLACED, I KNEW THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD WAS SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO WHERE TXWY F INTERSECTS THE RWY. FLYING VISUALLY, WITHOUT VERT GUIDANCE AND AFTER HAVING BRIEFED THE CREW THAT I INTENDED TO LAND AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD, I MADE A NORMAL TOUCHDOWN PAST THE PAINTED ARROWS JUST PRIOR TO INTXN F. UPON TAXI BACK, WE NOTICED THE UNLIT 4 FT BY 4 FT BOARDS ON THE GND OUTSIDE OF THE RWY AND REALIZED WE TOUCHED DOWN APPROX 300 FT SHORT. THE NEW CONCRETE POURED LOOKS SOMEWHAT LIKE POORLY PAINTED TOUCHDOWN MARKING. ALSO, THERE ARE ORANGE CONES ON THE RWY, BUT THEY ARE DOWN BY THE PAINTED ARROWS/LINE. NO COMMENT FROM ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.