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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 483472 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200008 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1400 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : straight in |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 315 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 483472 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After making the appropriate radio calls to establish ourselves on base leg at pez for runway 16 my student proceeded to make a call for final while simultaneously turning for final. During the standard left turn to final I noticed a plane making a right turn to final. The plane was lower and about 1/2-1 mi behind us. At this point my student committed to a go around and made a radio call informing pez traffic of his intentions. He also stated that we were making a closed pattern for a touch and go on runway 16. While executing our intentions, pez unicom stated to us that the plane behind us which landed was a crop duster, had no radios, and was now clear of the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A NO RADIO CROP DUSTER APCHING FROM BEHIND CAUSED RPTR AND HIS STUDENT TO GO AROUND AT AN UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: AFTER MAKING THE APPROPRIATE RADIO CALLS TO ESTABLISH OURSELVES ON BASE LEG AT PEZ FOR RWY 16 MY STUDENT PROCEEDED TO MAKE A CALL FOR FINAL WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY TURNING FOR FINAL. DURING THE STANDARD L TURN TO FINAL I NOTICED A PLANE MAKING A R TURN TO FINAL. THE PLANE WAS LOWER AND ABOUT 1/2-1 MI BEHIND US. AT THIS POINT MY STUDENT COMMITTED TO A GAR AND MADE A RADIO CALL INFORMING PEZ TFC OF HIS INTENTIONS. HE ALSO STATED THAT WE WERE MAKING A CLOSED PATTERN FOR A TOUCH AND GO ON RWY 16. WHILE EXECUTING OUR INTENTIONS, PEZ UNICOM STATED TO US THAT THE PLANE BEHIND US WHICH LANDED WAS A CROP DUSTER, HAD NO RADIOS, AND WAS NOW CLR OF THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.