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Captain of an air carrier aircraft was accused by FAA inspector of not having his airman, pilot, or medical certificates in his possession when leaving aircraft after flight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 482574 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200007 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 482574 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | observation : air carrier inspector other personnel other |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : 2 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : investigated Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Was off duty transiting the ramp to board awaiting employee bus to go home. Was ramp checked by FAA inspector. I thought he asked for my ramp identify, which I furnished to him. I thought I gave him what he wanted. Then on about aug/xa/00 or so, I received a letter of investigation from FAA which said I was in possible violation of far 61.3 because he, at the time, requested my airman certificates. I misunderstood his request at the time and was only aware of a possible violation when I received the FAA's letter of investigation on aug/xa/00. I was very fatigued at the time and the aircraft noise on the ramp made communication difficult. I did not understand him to ask for my 'airline transport pilot' certificates. I thought I gave him what he asked for. I am submitting a response to FAA's letter asking them to close the case because it was a misunderstanding.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN ACR ACFT WAS ACCUSED BY FAA INSPECTOR OF NOT HAVING HIS AIRMAN, PLT, OR MEDICAL CERTIFICATES IN HIS POSSESSION WHEN LEAVING ACFT AFTER FLT.
Narrative: WAS OFF DUTY TRANSITING THE RAMP TO BOARD AWAITING EMPLOYEE BUS TO GO HOME. WAS RAMP CHKED BY FAA INSPECTOR. I THOUGHT HE ASKED FOR MY RAMP IDENT, WHICH I FURNISHED TO HIM. I THOUGHT I GAVE HIM WHAT HE WANTED. THEN ON ABOUT AUG/XA/00 OR SO, I RECEIVED A LETTER OF INVESTIGATION FROM FAA WHICH SAID I WAS IN POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF FAR 61.3 BECAUSE HE, AT THE TIME, REQUESTED MY AIRMAN CERTIFICATES. I MISUNDERSTOOD HIS REQUEST AT THE TIME AND WAS ONLY AWARE OF A POSSIBLE VIOLATION WHEN I RECEIVED THE FAA'S LETTER OF INVESTIGATION ON AUG/XA/00. I WAS VERY FATIGUED AT THE TIME AND THE ACFT NOISE ON THE RAMP MADE COM DIFFICULT. I DID NOT UNDERSTAND HIM TO ASK FOR MY 'AIRLINE TRANSPORT PLT' CERTIFICATES. I THOUGHT I GAVE HIM WHAT HE ASKED FOR. I AM SUBMITTING A RESPONSE TO FAA'S LETTER ASKING THEM TO CLOSE THE CASE BECAUSE IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.