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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 477930 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200007 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 350 |
| ASRS Report | 477930 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Upon arrival into denver, crew scheduling was notified we had 30/7 a problem. I was informed it was ok to continue as long as we were completing planned segment. I then queried supervisor about the fact we had to go to jfk instead of lga due to curfew. I also queried duty manager. I was informed it was only a reassignment if flight number changed. I looked at identify -- it showed flight xa jfk as well as flight xa for the limo ride to lga. I again queried shift manager. He said 'flight number for ground and surface is same. You are not in violation of 30/7.' the next day I checked identify. They changed flight number on surface portion. This made it a violation since they changed the flight number after the fact.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN AIRBUS A320 EXCEEDED COMPANY FLT TIME DUTY LIMITATIONS FOR A 7 DAY PERIOD.
Narrative: UPON ARR INTO DENVER, CREW SCHEDULING WAS NOTIFIED WE HAD 30/7 A PROB. I WAS INFORMED IT WAS OK TO CONTINUE AS LONG AS WE WERE COMPLETING PLANNED SEGMENT. I THEN QUERIED SUPVR ABOUT THE FACT WE HAD TO GO TO JFK INSTEAD OF LGA DUE TO CURFEW. I ALSO QUERIED DUTY MGR. I WAS INFORMED IT WAS ONLY A REASSIGNMENT IF FLT NUMBER CHANGED. I LOOKED AT IDENT -- IT SHOWED FLT XA JFK AS WELL AS FLT XA FOR THE LIMO RIDE TO LGA. I AGAIN QUERIED SHIFT MGR. HE SAID 'FLT NUMBER FOR GND AND SURFACE IS SAME. YOU ARE NOT IN VIOLATION OF 30/7.' THE NEXT DAY I CHKED IDENT. THEY CHANGED FLT NUMBER ON SURFACE PORTION. THIS MADE IT A VIOLATION SINCE THEY CHANGED THE FLT NUMBER AFTER THE FACT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.