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Traffic not correctly idented in pattern at lga, ny, before crew accepted visual approach. TRACON vectored to avoid conflict.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 477000 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200005 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-88 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 47700 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 1000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Traffic at 3 O'clock position on downwind reported at 2 O'clock position. Captain said he had it. I sat it at 3 O'clock position and said I was not sure if it was the correct traffic. We were cleared visual behind reported saab 340. We turned base and I said 'I'm not sure, so will keep looking.' saw traffic at 11 O'clock position on base. Approach control climbed us and turned us left. No TCASII RA, no real event. Came around and landed uneventfully. But traffic at our now 12 - 12:30 O'clock position on base was the saab we were to follow. Problem traffic originally reported at 2 O'clock when on downwind, but was really at 12:30 position. Other traffic at 3 O'clock was also a turboprop saab or a like aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TFC NOT CORRECTLY IDENTED IN PATTERN AT LGA, NY, BEFORE CREW ACCEPTED VISUAL APCH. TRACON VECTORED TO AVOID CONFLICT.
Narrative: TFC AT 3 O'CLOCK POS ON DOWNWIND RPTED AT 2 O'CLOCK POS. CAPT SAID HE HAD IT. I SAT IT AT 3 O'CLOCK POS AND SAID I WAS NOT SURE IF IT WAS THE CORRECT TFC. WE WERE CLRED VISUAL BEHIND RPTED SAAB 340. WE TURNED BASE AND I SAID 'I'M NOT SURE, SO WILL KEEP LOOKING.' SAW TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK POS ON BASE. APCH CTL CLBED US AND TURNED US L. NO TCASII RA, NO REAL EVENT. CAME AROUND AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. BUT TFC AT OUR NOW 12 - 12:30 O'CLOCK POS ON BASE WAS THE SAAB WE WERE TO FOLLOW. PROB TFC ORIGINALLY RPTED AT 2 O'CLOCK WHEN ON DOWNWIND, BUT WAS REALLY AT 12:30 POS. OTHER TFC AT 3 O'CLOCK WAS ALSO A TURBOPROP SAAB OR A LIKE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.