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An FK100 turns of the localizer to runway 30L early for a more stabilized approach and is chastised by the tower controller at stl, mo.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 476379 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200006 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : stl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 30l |
| Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : visual approach : instrument non precision approach : straight in |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 476379 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 476614 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Location: just past neale on lda runway 30L. We were doing the lda runway 30L at stl. Just past neale on the approach we left the localizer and lined up on runway 30L for landing. We still had not received a clearance for landing and I asked the tower controller for landing clearance. The tower controller asked if we had left the localizer and I told her that we had left the localizer and lined up on the runway. She informed me that we should have remained on the localizer until the missed approach point, joess. In the future, I will do that but feel that flying the lda to that point and then making a hard right immediately followed by a hard left at 600 ft AGL is not a very safe practice. Supplemental information from acn 476614: it appeared that she was just advising us of this. We maneuvered the aircraft to facilitate a stable approach to a visual landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN FK100 TURNS OF THE LOC TO RWY 30L EARLY FOR A MORE STABILIZED APCH AND IS CHASTISED BY THE TWR CTLR AT STL, MO.
Narrative: LOCATION: JUST PAST NEALE ON LDA RWY 30L. WE WERE DOING THE LDA RWY 30L AT STL. JUST PAST NEALE ON THE APCH WE LEFT THE LOC AND LINED UP ON RWY 30L FOR LNDG. WE STILL HAD NOT RECEIVED A CLRNC FOR LNDG AND I ASKED THE TWR CTLR FOR LNDG CLRNC. THE TWR CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD LEFT THE LOC AND I TOLD HER THAT WE HAD LEFT THE LOC AND LINED UP ON THE RWY. SHE INFORMED ME THAT WE SHOULD HAVE REMAINED ON THE LOC UNTIL THE MISSED APCH POINT, JOESS. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL DO THAT BUT FEEL THAT FLYING THE LDA TO THAT POINT AND THEN MAKING A HARD R IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY A HARD L AT 600 FT AGL IS NOT A VERY SAFE PRACTICE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 476614: IT APPEARED THAT SHE WAS JUST ADVISING US OF THIS. WE MANEUVERED THE ACFT TO FACILITATE A STABLE APCH TO A VISUAL LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.