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An S80 PIC report on suffering to a level of aggression from the ground controller during their entry into taxiway at dfw, tx.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 474001 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200005 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : pushback |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 474001 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : dfw.comrdo |
Narrative:
A few weeks ago I submitted a similar report regarding the exit of ramp via taxiway where the ground controller wanted me to do a 180 degree turn against other outbound aircraft but eventually allowed me to exit. Today I pwrbacked off to gate and the ramp controller said 'left turn out taxiway call ground.' I turned left, got in line behind another S80, and monitored. Ground control was busy with aircraft taxiing the wrong way on taxiway Z and taxiway Y, as well as other typical rush hour dilemmas. As we became #1, ground said very loudly '...and who is now the next S80 to violate taxi instructions?' you would normally get a real sinking feeling right about now, but I really do not think I did anything wrong. We were then told that the entire area there is under FAA ATC control. I don't know what to say. We pwred back, turned left as instructed, taxiway was right there. We pulled up ever so slightly and got yelled at. Our manuals need more information exiting this area so we don't do anything unsafe/wrong. There was another S80 ahead of us. But we did not hear what his infraction was, even though ground was yelling at him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN S80 PIC RPT ON SUFFERING TO A LEVEL OF AGGRESSION FROM THE GND CTLR DURING THEIR ENTRY INTO TXWY AT DFW, TX.
Narrative: A FEW WKS AGO I SUBMITTED A SIMILAR RPT REGARDING THE EXIT OF RAMP VIA TXWY WHERE THE GND CTLR WANTED ME TO DO A 180 DEG TURN AGAINST OTHER OUTBOUND ACFT BUT EVENTUALLY ALLOWED ME TO EXIT. TODAY I PWRBACKED OFF TO GATE AND THE RAMP CTLR SAID 'L TURN OUT TXWY CALL GND.' I TURNED L, GOT IN LINE BEHIND ANOTHER S80, AND MONITORED. GND CTL WAS BUSY WITH ACFT TAXIING THE WRONG WAY ON TXWY Z AND TXWY Y, AS WELL AS OTHER TYPICAL RUSH HR DILEMMAS. AS WE BECAME #1, GND SAID VERY LOUDLY '...AND WHO IS NOW THE NEXT S80 TO VIOLATE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS?' YOU WOULD NORMALLY GET A REAL SINKING FEELING RIGHT ABOUT NOW, BUT I REALLY DO NOT THINK I DID ANYTHING WRONG. WE WERE THEN TOLD THAT THE ENTIRE AREA THERE IS UNDER FAA ATC CTL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. WE PWRED BACK, TURNED L AS INSTRUCTED, TXWY WAS RIGHT THERE. WE PULLED UP EVER SO SLIGHTLY AND GOT YELLED AT. OUR MANUALS NEED MORE INFO EXITING THIS AREA SO WE DON'T DO ANYTHING UNSAFE/WRONG. THERE WAS ANOTHER S80 AHEAD OF US. BUT WE DID NOT HEAR WHAT HIS INFRACTION WAS, EVEN THOUGH GND WAS YELLING AT HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.