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A PA44-180 CFI and his student inadvertently enter the sna class C airspace while training was in progress south of sli, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 471820 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200005 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : sli.vortac |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 80 |
| ASRS Report | 471820 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While doing a training flight south of the lgb airport, I got overly involved with the instruction and failed to notice the plane's location in relation to the sna class B airspace. I looked out and saw that we were 4500 ft eastbound past ema and eva oil rigs, and possibly in sna class C airspace. We immediately turned to the west and continued with the lesson, then landed at lgb (home base). We were on the verge of the airspace. I usually get flight following to avoid any problems, but did not on this flight. No other planes were involved. It was a temporary loss of positional awareness with reference to the class C airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA44-180 CFI AND HIS STUDENT INADVERTENTLY ENTER THE SNA CLASS C AIRSPACE WHILE TRAINING WAS IN PROGRESS S OF SLI, CA.
Narrative: WHILE DOING A TRAINING FLT S OF THE LGB ARPT, I GOT OVERLY INVOLVED WITH THE INSTRUCTION AND FAILED TO NOTICE THE PLANE'S LOCATION IN RELATION TO THE SNA CLASS B AIRSPACE. I LOOKED OUT AND SAW THAT WE WERE 4500 FT EBOUND PAST EMA AND EVA OIL RIGS, AND POSSIBLY IN SNA CLASS C AIRSPACE. WE IMMEDIATELY TURNED TO THE W AND CONTINUED WITH THE LESSON, THEN LANDED AT LGB (HOME BASE). WE WERE ON THE VERGE OF THE AIRSPACE. I USUALLY GET FLT FOLLOWING TO AVOID ANY PROBS, BUT DID NOT ON THIS FLT. NO OTHER PLANES WERE INVOLVED. IT WAS A TEMPORARY LOSS OF POSITIONAL AWARENESS WITH REF TO THE CLASS C AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.