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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 467570 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200003 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lan.airport |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 7 flight time total : 870 flight time type : 380 |
| ASRS Report | 467570 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On departure, I was cleared 'climb at pilot's discretion, maintain VFR.' I requested leveloff of 2500 ft MSL. Controller confirmed. I had a little question if the climb clearance was pilot's discretion to 2000 ft MSL, and if I could have gone through an assigned altitude, even though controller agreed to 2500 ft MSL. The controller never mentioned any problems, so I feel I was correct in my procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA32 PLT QUESTIONED 'CLB AT PLT'S DISCRETION' CLRNC.
Narrative: ON DEP, I WAS CLRED 'CLB AT PLT'S DISCRETION, MAINTAIN VFR.' I REQUESTED LEVELOFF OF 2500 FT MSL. CTLR CONFIRMED. I HAD A LITTLE QUESTION IF THE CLB CLRNC WAS PLT'S DISCRETION TO 2000 FT MSL, AND IF I COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH AN ASSIGNED ALT, EVEN THOUGH CTLR AGREED TO 2500 FT MSL. THE CTLR NEVER MENTIONED ANY PROBS, SO I FEEL I WAS CORRECT IN MY PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.