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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 466950 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200003 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : emi.vortac |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi.tracon |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 20 |
| ASRS Report | 466950 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 467819 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 1000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Training flight/check ride with chief pilot. I was demonstrating steep turns but under IFR control. Conditions VFR. Completed a right 360 degree turn then a left. The controller was not expecting a left turn. We caused a traffic conflict. When vectored back on course we were given an altitude of 10000 ft. We climbed through our altitude by 500 ft before recognizing error. We were previously given a 'block' altitude but that clearance was amended with the traffic conflict. We were still thinking 'block' altitudes. Contributing factor: flying VFR maneuvers while on IFR flight plan and having a non standard clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ATX TRAINING FLT IN A BRITISH HAWKER, HS125-700 CAUSED A POTENTIAL CONFLICT DURING TRAINING MANEUVERS WHEN THEY MADE A STEEP TURN NOT EXPECTED BY DEP CTLR. IN ADDITION, THEY OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT AFTER GIVEN A 'HARD ALT' BY ATC.
Narrative: TRAINING FLT/CHK RIDE WITH CHIEF PLT. I WAS DEMONSTRATING STEEP TURNS BUT UNDER IFR CTL. CONDITIONS VFR. COMPLETED A R 360 DEG TURN THEN A L. THE CTLR WAS NOT EXPECTING A L TURN. WE CAUSED A TFC CONFLICT. WHEN VECTORED BACK ON COURSE WE WERE GIVEN AN ALT OF 10000 FT. WE CLBED THROUGH OUR ALT BY 500 FT BEFORE RECOGNIZING ERROR. WE WERE PREVIOUSLY GIVEN A 'BLOCK' ALT BUT THAT CLRNC WAS AMENDED WITH THE TFC CONFLICT. WE WERE STILL THINKING 'BLOCK' ALTS. CONTRIBUTING FACTOR: FLYING VFR MANEUVERS WHILE ON IFR FLT PLAN AND HAVING A NON STANDARD CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.