<< >> NASA ASRS Report 464771, February 2000

Captain of an large transport complains of workload in responding to numerous TCASII targets and departure control clearance changes during climb out from the lgb airport. Believes that the departure for air carrier aircraft could be immediately climbed into class B airspace for separation from light aircraft traffic in and around the airport class D airspace.

Attributes
ACN	464771
Time
Date	200002
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lgb.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 3000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : sct.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other other vortac
Flight Phase	climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : lgb.tower
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise : level descent : intermediate altitude
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4200
ASRS Report	464771
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action
Miss Distance	horizontal : 2000 vertical : 1000
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Airspace Structure
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : lgb.tower
Airport	procedure or policy : lgb.airport

Narrative:

I have operated out of lgb for the last 3 sundays in a row, each time has been frightening. The standard departure is a turn at 1500 ft to a 180 degree heading off of runway 30. Socal departure assigns 3000 ft. Upon 'checking in' with socal, we are issued with TA's of VFR light aircraft. The TCASII display shows numerous targets within +/-2000 ft of us. ATC burdens us with multiple heading, altitude and frequency changes, resulting in a lot of heads down time. I believe this departure on wkends is very dangerous. I will not put my family in the back of any air carrier flight into or out of lgb on the wkend! A suggested solution would be to allow air carrier departures to make unrestr climbs to at least 8000 ft and into the protection of the lax class B airspace as soon as possible.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CAPT OF AN LGT COMPLAINS OF WORKLOAD IN RESPONDING TO NUMEROUS TCASII TARGETS AND DEP CTL CLRNC CHANGES DURING CLBOUT FROM THE LGB ARPT. BELIEVES THAT THE DEP FOR ACR ACFT COULD BE IMMEDIATELY CLBED INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE FOR SEPARATION FROM LIGHT ACFT TFC IN AND AROUND THE ARPT CLASS D AIRSPACE.

Narrative: I HAVE OPERATED OUT OF LGB FOR THE LAST 3 SUNDAYS IN A ROW, EACH TIME HAS BEEN FRIGHTENING. THE STANDARD DEP IS A TURN AT 1500 FT TO A 180 DEG HDG OFF OF RWY 30. SOCAL DEP ASSIGNS 3000 FT. UPON 'CHKING IN' WITH SOCAL, WE ARE ISSUED WITH TA'S OF VFR LIGHT ACFT. THE TCASII DISPLAY SHOWS NUMEROUS TARGETS WITHIN +/-2000 FT OF US. ATC BURDENS US WITH MULTIPLE HDG, ALT AND FREQ CHANGES, RESULTING IN A LOT OF HEADS DOWN TIME. I BELIEVE THIS DEP ON WKENDS IS VERY DANGEROUS. I WILL NOT PUT MY FAMILY IN THE BACK OF ANY ACR FLT INTO OR OUT OF LGB ON THE WKEND! A SUGGESTED SOLUTION WOULD BE TO ALLOW ACR DEPS TO MAKE UNRESTR CLBS TO AT LEAST 8000 FT AND INTO THE PROTECTION OF THE LAX CLASS B AIRSPACE ASAP.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.