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An MD80S captain perceived that lax ground and tower were not coordinating well with each other, causing a B747 to taxi very close to his aircraft and stopping at the last moment.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 463772 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200002 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 463772 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : flc 4 |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Landed lax at approximately XA00 on runway 7R. Cleared at taxiway H and was told by lax tower to back taxi on runway 25R/7L and clear at taxiway K and reference an air carrier L1011 on the inner taxiway B. As we cleared on taxiway K and stopped, waiting to talk to ground control on 121.75, we noticed a B747 approaching our aircraft on the right and finally stopped very close to our aircraft. If the B747 had continued, he would have hit our aircraft. Finally, ground told us to taxi ahead of the B747 and there was no further problem. I feel there was extremely poor coordination between tower and ground. Also, I noticed a change in ground control voices after we were cleared to the gate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80S CAPT PERCEIVED THAT LAX GND AND TWR WERE NOT COORDINATING WELL WITH EACH OTHER, CAUSING A B747 TO TAXI VERY CLOSE TO HIS ACFT AND STOPPING AT THE LAST MOMENT.
Narrative: LANDED LAX AT APPROX XA00 ON RWY 7R. CLRED AT TXWY H AND WAS TOLD BY LAX TWR TO BACK TAXI ON RWY 25R/7L AND CLR AT TXWY K AND REF AN ACR L1011 ON THE INNER TXWY B. AS WE CLRED ON TXWY K AND STOPPED, WAITING TO TALK TO GND CTL ON 121.75, WE NOTICED A B747 APCHING OUR ACFT ON THE R AND FINALLY STOPPED VERY CLOSE TO OUR ACFT. IF THE B747 HAD CONTINUED, HE WOULD HAVE HIT OUR ACFT. FINALLY, GND TOLD US TO TAXI AHEAD OF THE B747 AND THERE WAS NO FURTHER PROB. I FEEL THERE WAS EXTREMELY POOR COORD BTWN TWR AND GND. ALSO, I NOTICED A CHANGE IN GND CTL VOICES AFTER WE WERE CLRED TO THE GATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.