CL65 crew missed a crossing restr after being xferred from ZOB to ZNY.

Attributes
ACN	459940
Time
Date	200001
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : lhy.vortac
State Reference	PA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 24000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zob.artcc artcc : zny.artcc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other other vortac
Flight Phase	descent : vacating altitude
Route In Use	arrival other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 750
ASRS Report	459940
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 14000
ASRS Report	459944
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Approximately 20 NM wsw of lhy flying direct, we were given a crossing restr to cross 10 mi west of lhy at FL190. We were presently at FL290. We started our descent at that time and were handed off to ZNY. Upon checking in with ZNY, the controller asked if we were given a crossing restr. The controller stated we may miss the crossing and we agreed with him stating that we were doing our best. In 10 mi we needed to lose 10000 ft with a TAS of 480 KTS and a 120 KT tailwind. It was a lot of altitude to lose. Not having the chance to notify ATC upon our realization due to other radio calls, the controller was the first to contact us before we could call them. Both pilots flew over 8 hours that day and were approaching their 13TH hour of duty. We missed the crossing by approximately 5000 ft and were vectored left and right of course for the descent. The controller stated it was for ZBW's request.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CL65 CREW MISSED A XING RESTR AFTER BEING XFERRED FROM ZOB TO ZNY.

Narrative: APPROX 20 NM WSW OF LHY FLYING DIRECT, WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTR TO CROSS 10 MI W OF LHY AT FL190. WE WERE PRESENTLY AT FL290. WE STARTED OUR DSCNT AT THAT TIME AND WERE HANDED OFF TO ZNY. UPON CHKING IN WITH ZNY, THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE GIVEN A XING RESTR. THE CTLR STATED WE MAY MISS THE XING AND WE AGREED WITH HIM STATING THAT WE WERE DOING OUR BEST. IN 10 MI WE NEEDED TO LOSE 10000 FT WITH A TAS OF 480 KTS AND A 120 KT TAILWIND. IT WAS A LOT OF ALT TO LOSE. NOT HAVING THE CHANCE TO NOTIFY ATC UPON OUR REALIZATION DUE TO OTHER RADIO CALLS, THE CTLR WAS THE FIRST TO CONTACT US BEFORE WE COULD CALL THEM. BOTH PLTS FLEW OVER 8 HRS THAT DAY AND WERE APCHING THEIR 13TH HR OF DUTY. WE MISSED THE XING BY APPROX 5000 FT AND WERE VECTORED L AND R OF COURSE FOR THE DSCNT. THE CTLR STATED IT WAS FOR ZBW'S REQUEST.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.