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Air carrier captain complains that first officer will not fly as directed after the first officer leaves assigned altitude over smo.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 458860 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199912 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : smo.vor |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6200 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : sadde 6 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 458860 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approaching santa monica with clearance to 7000 ft. ATC cleared us to maintain 7000 ft until crossing VOR then descend to 2500 ft. First officer flying. First officer reset 2500 on fcp calculating that he wouldn't get down to 7000 ft prior to the VOR. I reset 7000 ft and explained that I would rather do it that way because it is procedure. Leveling at 7000 ft with 2.7 mi to go first officer pressed IAS button and continued descent crossing santa monica at 6200 ft. Short of taking abrupt physical control of the airplane, I could not stop him. Not enough first officer's follow their captain's lead. I don't want to create an oppressive environment in the cockpit, but an erosion of respect has created an erosion of safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CAPT COMPLAINS THAT FO WILL NOT FLY AS DIRECTED AFTER THE FO LEAVES ASSIGNED ALT OVER SMO.
Narrative: APCHING SANTA MONICA WITH CLRNC TO 7000 FT. ATC CLRED US TO MAINTAIN 7000 FT UNTIL XING VOR THEN DSND TO 2500 FT. FO FLYING. FO RESET 2500 ON FCP CALCULATING THAT HE WOULDN'T GET DOWN TO 7000 FT PRIOR TO THE VOR. I RESET 7000 FT AND EXPLAINED THAT I WOULD RATHER DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT IS PROC. LEVELING AT 7000 FT WITH 2.7 MI TO GO FO PRESSED IAS BUTTON AND CONTINUED DSCNT XING SANTA MONICA AT 6200 FT. SHORT OF TAKING ABRUPT PHYSICAL CTL OF THE AIRPLANE, I COULD NOT STOP HIM. NOT ENOUGH FO'S FOLLOW THEIR CAPT'S LEAD. I DON'T WANT TO CREATE AN OPPRESSIVE ENVIRONMENT IN THE COCKPIT, BUT AN EROSION OF RESPECT HAS CREATED AN EROSION OF SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.