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Flight crew of a dehavilland DHC8 failed to close their IFR flight plan in a timely manner after landing at a tower closed airport at night.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 454160 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199911 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : psp.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : post flight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 454160 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Basically myself and the captain did not close out the flight plan for about 1 hour after we landed. The captain called flight service and they were not at all upset about it. However, it made me think, I wanted to close the flight plan while we were in the air less than 10 mi from the field, but company policy, which is driven by far part 121, discourages this. I have been stuck holding as a result of this rule before, which makes me feel even worse that it took us an hour or more to close out. Anyway, my suggestion is that the FAA encourage us to close the flight plan in the air if the field in sight and that part 121 is changed to reflect that.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A DEHAVILLAND DHC8 FAILED TO CLOSE THEIR IFR FLT PLAN IN A TIMELY MANNER AFTER LNDG AT A TWR CLOSED ARPT AT NIGHT.
Narrative: BASICALLY MYSELF AND THE CAPT DID NOT CLOSE OUT THE FLT PLAN FOR ABOUT 1 HR AFTER WE LANDED. THE CAPT CALLED FLT SVC AND THEY WERE NOT AT ALL UPSET ABOUT IT. HOWEVER, IT MADE ME THINK, I WANTED TO CLOSE THE FLT PLAN WHILE WE WERE IN THE AIR LESS THAN 10 MI FROM THE FIELD, BUT COMPANY POLICY, WHICH IS DRIVEN BY FAR PART 121, DISCOURAGES THIS. I HAVE BEEN STUCK HOLDING AS A RESULT OF THIS RULE BEFORE, WHICH MAKES ME FEEL EVEN WORSE THAT IT TOOK US AN HR OR MORE TO CLOSE OUT. ANYWAY, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THE FAA ENCOURAGE US TO CLOSE THE FLT PLAN IN THE AIR IF THE FIELD IN SIGHT AND THAT PART 121 IS CHANGED TO REFLECT THAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.