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A demonstration pilot made a runway incursion at ltac.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 453840 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199911 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ltac.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | BAe 146 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 3350 flight time type : 70 |
| ASRS Report | 453840 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Passenger Human Performance ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the end of the last flight of a 3 week demonstration flight tour in ankara, turkey, we taxied across an active runway. After a 40 min flight, demonstrating flight characteristics of our aircraft to 6 turkish pilots, in which language was a barrier, we were taxiing to the GA ramp. We were instructed to hold short of runway 21L. After coming to a complete stop we asked ground/tower for permission to cross runway 21L (active runway). A transmission which sounded to us as 'affirmative,' which is the standard phraseology used at ltac, was received and we proceeded to cross runway 21L. All of our exterior lights were on and we cleared the runway visually during crossing. The runway is 12303 ft long. A turkish BA146 was apparently already rolling as we crossed, but was not visible from our perspective. After we were 2/3 across the runway, we were instructed to stop. But it was not possible to stop before exiting the runway. We were notified that the BA146 pilot wished to file a complaint. When we requested a copy of the ATC tape the answer was a flat, 'no.' during the days we flew in and out of ltac, the controllers frequently spoke turkish which reduced our situational awareness. On this day, numerous aircraft were on frequency and all speaking turkish. We would never taxi onto the active runway if we had just heard 'cleared for takeoff.' in addition to the turkish, the controller's english and communication equipment were poor. I believe this incident is due to a misunderstanding/miscom. Next time I will clarify.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEMONSTRATION PLT MADE A RWY INCURSION AT LTAC.
Narrative: ON THE END OF THE LAST FLT OF A 3 WK DEMONSTRATION FLT TOUR IN ANKARA, TURKEY, WE TAXIED ACROSS AN ACTIVE RWY. AFTER A 40 MIN FLT, DEMONSTRATING FLT CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR ACFT TO 6 TURKISH PLTS, IN WHICH LANGUAGE WAS A BARRIER, WE WERE TAXIING TO THE GA RAMP. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 21L. AFTER COMING TO A COMPLETE STOP WE ASKED GND/TWR FOR PERMISSION TO CROSS RWY 21L (ACTIVE RWY). A XMISSION WHICH SOUNDED TO US AS 'AFFIRMATIVE,' WHICH IS THE STANDARD PHRASEOLOGY USED AT LTAC, WAS RECEIVED AND WE PROCEEDED TO CROSS RWY 21L. ALL OF OUR EXTERIOR LIGHTS WERE ON AND WE CLRED THE RWY VISUALLY DURING XING. THE RWY IS 12303 FT LONG. A TURKISH BA146 WAS APPARENTLY ALREADY ROLLING AS WE CROSSED, BUT WAS NOT VISIBLE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. AFTER WE WERE 2/3 ACROSS THE RWY, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO STOP. BUT IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO STOP BEFORE EXITING THE RWY. WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THE BA146 PLT WISHED TO FILE A COMPLAINT. WHEN WE REQUESTED A COPY OF THE ATC TAPE THE ANSWER WAS A FLAT, 'NO.' DURING THE DAYS WE FLEW IN AND OUT OF LTAC, THE CTLRS FREQUENTLY SPOKE TURKISH WHICH REDUCED OUR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. ON THIS DAY, NUMEROUS ACFT WERE ON FREQ AND ALL SPEAKING TURKISH. WE WOULD NEVER TAXI ONTO THE ACTIVE RWY IF WE HAD JUST HEARD 'CLRED FOR TKOF.' IN ADDITION TO THE TURKISH, THE CTLR'S ENGLISH AND COM EQUIP WERE POOR. I BELIEVE THIS INCIDENT IS DUE TO A MISUNDERSTANDING/MISCOM. NEXT TIME I WILL CLARIFY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.