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A cpr PIC is criticized by apc tower after he accepts a visual to apc from O90 controller when the WX is 800 ft broken, 7 mi visibility. Apc, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 450007 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199909 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : apc.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon tower : apc.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 450007 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry inflight encounter : vfr in imc non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approaching the napa county airport (apc), we had excellent view of airport. WX was reported as 800 ft broken, visibility 7 mi. ZOA asked if we could accept a 'visual' approach. We responded 'yes.' they then cleared us for a visual approach and handed us off to tower. When we got on the ground, tower called on landline to ask us why we accepted a 'visual approach' when the control zone was IFR at 800 ft broken, 7 mi visibility. Good point. We let ATC set us up. We should have said 'no, but we can take a contact.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR PIC IS CRITICIZED BY APC TWR AFTER HE ACCEPTS A VISUAL TO APC FROM O90 CTLR WHEN THE WX IS 800 FT BROKEN, 7 MI VISIBILITY. APC, CA.
Narrative: APCHING THE NAPA COUNTY ARPT (APC), WE HAD EXCELLENT VIEW OF ARPT. WX WAS RPTED AS 800 FT BROKEN, VISIBILITY 7 MI. ZOA ASKED IF WE COULD ACCEPT A 'VISUAL' APCH. WE RESPONDED 'YES.' THEY THEN CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH AND HANDED US OFF TO TWR. WHEN WE GOT ON THE GND, TWR CALLED ON LANDLINE TO ASK US WHY WE ACCEPTED A 'VISUAL APCH' WHEN THE CTL ZONE WAS IFR AT 800 FT BROKEN, 7 MI VISIBILITY. GOOD POINT. WE LET ATC SET US UP. WE SHOULD HAVE SAID 'NO, BUT WE CAN TAKE A CONTACT.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.