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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 448559 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199909 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : rod.vortac |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : descent cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 448559 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Level at FL240 on descent to cmh. Later, ZID advised lower when clear of traffic, followed quickly by 'descend to FL210, expedite.' I entered FL210 in FCU and hit 'expedite' button. At approximately FL232, ZID asked our altitude. Our response, captain's pull-up and RA followed almost immediately and simultaneously. I never saw the threat. Captain saw an air carrier Y MD80. We leveled momentarily at FL240 and center cleared us to FL190. 1 flight attendant was injured. She went to hospital but was released. Airspace -- traffic in this area is often chaotic. Remotely connected -- cmh ATIS frequency has bleed over and often takes 2-3 cycles to get. Supplemental information from acn 448624: aircraft #1 level FL240, aircraft #2 climbed to FL230. I was working FL230 and below talking to aircraft #1. High altitude controller climbed aircraft #2 and asked me to expedite aircraft #1 down. TCASII activated and pilot reported an near midair collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR HAS TCASII RA WHEN CTLRS AT ARTCC DO NOT PROVIDE SEPARATION DURING DSCNT. FLT ATTENDANT INJURED DURING EVASIVE MANEUVER.
Narrative: LEVEL AT FL240 ON DSCNT TO CMH. LATER, ZID ADVISED LOWER WHEN CLR OF TFC, FOLLOWED QUICKLY BY 'DSND TO FL210, EXPEDITE.' I ENTERED FL210 IN FCU AND HIT 'EXPEDITE' BUTTON. AT APPROX FL232, ZID ASKED OUR ALT. OUR RESPONSE, CAPT'S PULL-UP AND RA FOLLOWED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AND SIMULTANEOUSLY. I NEVER SAW THE THREAT. CAPT SAW AN ACR Y MD80. WE LEVELED MOMENTARILY AT FL240 AND CTR CLRED US TO FL190. 1 FLT ATTENDANT WAS INJURED. SHE WENT TO HOSPITAL BUT WAS RELEASED. AIRSPACE -- TFC IN THIS AREA IS OFTEN CHAOTIC. REMOTELY CONNECTED -- CMH ATIS FREQ HAS BLEED OVER AND OFTEN TAKES 2-3 CYCLES TO GET. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 448624: ACFT #1 LEVEL FL240, ACFT #2 CLBED TO FL230. I WAS WORKING FL230 AND BELOW TALKING TO ACFT #1. HIGH ALT CTLR CLBED ACFT #2 AND ASKED ME TO EXPEDITE ACFT #1 DOWN. TCASII ACTIVATED AND PLT RPTED AN NMAC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.